On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 16:38:18 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
<[email protected]> said:

hmmm commenties time.

as such b&w started simply + nice - it does need work as everything has been
re-used and re-cycled where thins should have been re-done. for example i
think toolbar should actually take on the look of e.org's top "navigation bar".
it would fit rather well. also in many places the black shiny boxes have been
used where things should  have been done differently. also i'm wondering if
having the rounded corners of these buttons is good - maybe make them squared
off? the glow for clicking i added because it was so hard to see the button
pressed in on touchscreen devices.

as for scrollbar - we need to keep it, but theme should allow a singal to emit
to let scroller know if its in a desktop scrollbar mode or finger/thumb scroll
mode where scrollbar only appears once u drag content around (and fades out
after a timeout). there is a good reason to have both - scrollbar for
familiarity on desktops but a mode to kill it on touchscreens (tho have it
appear as a way of quickly scrolling to the end with a drag content, click and
drag scrollbar to end, release and it fades out).

toggle - out toggle needs a drag to flip it - iphone needs a click - should
probably allow a click to toggle it too. as such current toggle design is for
the desktop level dpi - scaling should make it bigger for ts screens (the high
dpi ones).

focus - agreed. elm needs this too. the reason i havent done it to every widget
is.. i dont think we want widgets to have to show focus. make it optional they
can have a focusin/out signal and can react.. BUT what we want is a single
object we move/resize around the screen to be on top of the focused widget. it
literally animates/slides as focus changes. it can be turned off on ts-only
system and on only for remote-control uis like set top boxes. tab/shift tab
should still go to next/prev widget to focus - but i think we need to alllow
apps to set up a focus chain for this - doing it in container order might not
be the best thing. but what needs doing is arrow keys move focus in that
direction - right moves it to the widget to the right, up - the same but up
etc. - android does this very well with the scrollball. this is just what u
need for set-top box ui's and remote controls, keypad phone ui's and for ts
devices with these extra arrowkeys etc.

(the rest i dont have much to say about!)

> Hi all,
> 
> I started a wiki page on theme revamp, to make us look fresher and
> better for our release that is around the corner:
> 
> http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Theme_Revamp
> 
> However, as I'm out of time I'd like help to:
>    - complete todo items listed there. Required skills: google (to
> search for screenshots of xp, vista, macos) and gimp (to create a
> single image comparing elementary with them)
>    - add ideas there, as some items I could not figure out what would
> solve the existing problem
> 
> And as I'm no designer, if you have graphics skills:
>    - do sketches and mockups
>    - fix EDCs to do what is said there (I can help here if you provide images)
> 
> 
> PS: I'm CCing Toma as I don't know if he is following ML anymore, but
> he is one of the major authors of current theme
> 
> -- 
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