I had a bit of a fiddle with it and swapped the shelf_inset.png usage
in elm/scroller/base/default to check_base.png. It feels lighter, and
the top shadow could be tweaked a little but it works so very much
better with the scrolled entry tests.

<rant>
On that note; it took me ~15 mins to find this damn thing. To have
change the look of the scroller to change the look of a text entry
field is crazy, IMHO. I had a brief look at the code and it seems
hard-wired into the "scrolled entry" widget. I suppose I was only
looking for the single line entry widget much like the E17 style.
Maybe thats just me having a stupid moment, but it was quite
confusing.
</rant>

Also, it feels like the genlist scrollbar should be draggable... maybe
it can already be. Just poking about at the moment.

Toma.



On 8 February 2010 16:18, Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 16:38:18 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> <[email protected]> said:
>
> hmmm commenties time.
>
> as such b&w started simply + nice - it does need work as everything has been
> re-used and re-cycled where thins should have been re-done. for example i
> think toolbar should actually take on the look of e.org's top "navigation 
> bar".
> it would fit rather well. also in many places the black shiny boxes have been
> used where things should  have been done differently. also i'm wondering if
> having the rounded corners of these buttons is good - maybe make them squared
> off? the glow for clicking i added because it was so hard to see the button
> pressed in on touchscreen devices.
>
> as for scrollbar - we need to keep it, but theme should allow a singal to emit
> to let scroller know if its in a desktop scrollbar mode or finger/thumb scroll
> mode where scrollbar only appears once u drag content around (and fades out
> after a timeout). there is a good reason to have both - scrollbar for
> familiarity on desktops but a mode to kill it on touchscreens (tho have it
> appear as a way of quickly scrolling to the end with a drag content, click and
> drag scrollbar to end, release and it fades out).
>
> toggle - out toggle needs a drag to flip it - iphone needs a click - should
> probably allow a click to toggle it too. as such current toggle design is for
> the desktop level dpi - scaling should make it bigger for ts screens (the high
> dpi ones).
>
> focus - agreed. elm needs this too. the reason i havent done it to every 
> widget
> is.. i dont think we want widgets to have to show focus. make it optional they
> can have a focusin/out signal and can react.. BUT what we want is a single
> object we move/resize around the screen to be on top of the focused widget. it
> literally animates/slides as focus changes. it can be turned off on ts-only
> system and on only for remote-control uis like set top boxes. tab/shift tab
> should still go to next/prev widget to focus - but i think we need to alllow
> apps to set up a focus chain for this - doing it in container order might not
> be the best thing. but what needs doing is arrow keys move focus in that
> direction - right moves it to the widget to the right, up - the same but up
> etc. - android does this very well with the scrollball. this is just what u
> need for set-top box ui's and remote controls, keypad phone ui's and for ts
> devices with these extra arrowkeys etc.
>
> (the rest i dont have much to say about!)
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I started a wiki page on theme revamp, to make us look fresher and
>> better for our release that is around the corner:
>>
>> http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Theme_Revamp
>>
>> However, as I'm out of time I'd like help to:
>>    - complete todo items listed there. Required skills: google (to
>> search for screenshots of xp, vista, macos) and gimp (to create a
>> single image comparing elementary with them)
>>    - add ideas there, as some items I could not figure out what would
>> solve the existing problem
>>
>> And as I'm no designer, if you have graphics skills:
>>    - do sketches and mockups
>>    - fix EDCs to do what is said there (I can help here if you provide 
>> images)
>>
>>
>> PS: I'm CCing Toma as I don't know if he is following ML anymore, but
>> he is one of the major authors of current theme
>>
>> --
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