On Saturday, 03 April 2010, at 20:10:43 (+0100),
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:

> It's not unnecessary, quite the contrary if you like clean rpm
> installations and are doing some work on a library requiring more
> than once a day installations.
>
> I'm interested in knowing why you think this is not a problem, if
> you have a better way to do it, please teach me.

The spec files in SVN are for end users as well as developers, and we
try to reach a reasonable middle ground between the two uses.  It is
far, far cleaner and simpler for we developers who do frequent RPM
installs in the course of developing our software to simply add
"--force" to the RPM install command.

> I'd also bet that 100% of people bright enough to recognize YYYYMMDD
> instantly will recognize YYYYMMDDHHMM (it's even one of the
> instantly recognized methods for setting the date in multiple
> implementations of this command).

There's no sense at all in arguing made-up statistics for which
neither of us could provide evidence or proof either way.  Suffice it
to say that YYYYMMDD is standard snapshot format.

> Since I have commit rights and have some RPM spec knowledge, instead
> of whining about an issue I put up a *proposal* to fix something
> that *is* an issue to me. I did this way instead of "just doing it"
> because from the last commits I did on some specs I saw that you
> seemed a bit beefed up about it and I don't want to tread on your
> toes.

And that is very much appreciated.  Keep in mind that some of us on
this project have been writing spec files and packaging RPM's for well
over 10 years now.  Some have even managed entire RPM-based
distributions.

> If you're worried about getting competition on rpm spec maintenance,
> then please don't! As that is certainly not my intention. :)

This is not personal for me.  Why are you trying to make it personal?

> I just need the specs to:
>   a) work
>   b) and be useful

They already work and are already useful.  Mission accomplished!  :-)

> This may not be an issue for you. That's perfectly fine! Perhaps I'm
> the only one who prefers to install RPMs rather than just use make
> install and this is a new need, can you please consider that? :)

I do that too.  See above.

Michael

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