On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 11:26:50 -0300 Iván Briano (Sachiel) <sachi...@gmail.com> said:
> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > wrote: > > On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 14:20:58 +0200 (CEST) Vincent Torri <vto...@univ-evry.fr> > > said: > > > >> > don't get so touchy. i started and wrote most of efl. and my coding > >> > style is rarely honored fully. everyone wants me to change editors just > >> > so i can conform to their indenting style because their editor is > >> > incapable of the same indentation. don't get your panties in a mess. i > >> > sure as hell am not going to write up a new formatting config per > >> > library, per app, etc. etc. - and if each one is formatted differently, > >> > it causes problems in being able to work on them. if you get offended by > >> > there being a universal formatting style for efl, then you're doing an > >> > awesome job of not helping improve or fix things. > >> > >> I mentioned twice in that ML before that i wanted the same coding style > >> for all the EFL (mainly because of Eina, actually, which has (had, now) 2 > >> different coding styles and because what you use is really ugly. Note > > > > you say ugly - i like it. i find other coding styles ugly. it's pointless > > trying to tall a coding style ugly. > > > >> that i never told you to change your editor) and that was the purpose of > >> those 2 mails... You answered me that it was useless because there would > >> be no universal agreement... Now, you say the contrary: we must have one > > > > useless to get people to follow a coding style - yes. see above. you find > > mine ugly. people just dont want to. useless in forcing it on them, but > > automatic re-formatting has been talked about for a long time. the problem > > has been lack of time and tools to do the job. > > > >> unique coding style. So i don't understand... Either you don't care about > >> what i say or else my english is too ugly. > > > > having people FORCED into having to indent in 1 way will never work. they > > use different editors. one guy has tabs set to 4, another to 8. they even > > may use different os's to edit (\n vs \r\n) etc. in the end you have a > > myriad of styles. evern with all the coding guidelines people ignore them. > > even with the "just follow the style that is there" guideline people ignore > > it. it doesnt work relying on people to do the formatting. if it is to be > > done, it needs to be as automated as possible. we can't automate everything > > - but we can do a fair chunk. > > > > People ignores the style that's there because no one is enforcing it, but look > at other projects and how they just reject any patch that doesn't > follow the style > to the letter. It ends up working or driving people that can't play by > the rules off. > > I remember back then, when this whole EFL thing started, that one of the > reasons for the rewrite from scratch was how ugly E16 had turned by letting > any patch in, and how now things would get more strict to keep the code clean, > stable and high quality. In the end, it gets to the point where stuff gets if > it works, and someone later will go around fixing style if they don't like it. people dont even follow it who have direct svn access. > >> > if you notice the formatting doesn't even match what i have used in the > >> > past too > >> > >> Yes. I also mentioned in my mails that my proposed coding style is not > >> mine too... > >> > >> > - it's whatever i can get out of an auto-formatter (uncrustify - it > >> seems > >> > to do a better job than indent and have by far many more options at any > >> > rate). but you didn't seem to pay attention to this. > >> > >> well, you missed my point, that's all (see above). I didn't pay attention > >> at what your script does because it was useless, as it was not the purpose > >> at all of my answer... > >> > >> > you may have also noticed that i > >> > CHANGED my jedrc a few days ago to match the atuo-indenting. maybe you > >> > didn't? > >> > >> I don't care about what you do in your jedrc, it's your problem, like it's > >> the other devs problem to do what is needed to respect the coding style. > >> See win32 code or xcb that i wrote, where i tried to respect your coding > >> style. Even more, in Epdf, Eps and Edvi, i used my ugly coding style, Etk > >> style for their etk widget, Ewl style for their ewl widget, your style for > >> their (old) epsilon plugin. If there is a group of people who try to > >> respect the coding style, i'm definitely in. > >> > >> Vincent > >> > > > > > > -- > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the > > Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share > > of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. 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