On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 18:19:01 +0100 (CET) Vincent Torri <[email protected]> said:
> > > On Sat, 12 Nov 2011, Jonathan Armani wrote: > > > Yep, enough word have been said, I'm not interested in pushing diff / > > process anymore. > > raster, Jonathan was enthousiastic in porting e17 on OpenBSD. Now, if he > is still interested in using e17 (that's even not sure anymore), he will > just keep his patch privately, which is BAD. > > I try to be nice and polite, to talk about the EFL, e17, to attract > people so that they join our forces (and yes, i have really attracted new > people in IRC channels !). Now, you're repulsing them ! Fuck ! Just for > some patches that are not correctly written, you just upset people. at no point was i rude. i wasn't all lovey-dovey hug the world, but i wasn't rude. i talked about the patches. > Instead of saying more or less "your patches suck, we don't want them", > why not saying "hmm these patches are not good, because etc.. can you > please rewrite them that way ?" Is it too much for you, to be a bit polite > ??? that IS WHAT I WROTE. did anyone actually read it? ok - i didn't use "not good" i used "bad". same thing. the WORST thing i said was "they have to be kicked for that" - the breaking of api. that means current openbsd packages have broken api's. mayube "just patch blindly" might have pissed them off... but it's true - api breaks along which lots of the diffs were busy fixing up in apps and other libs were done blindly - without looking around wider at the impact that kind of thing has. "the colro get patch alone is a totally wrong direction" might have offended.. wow.. buy saying its the totally wrong direction?... i have a good memory of what i said.. and i have a log. point out to me where exactly i was RUDE. where i called them "idiots" or "fools" or any kind of deorgatory term. tell me where i said "all their shit stinks" or any such term that's what armani, and kakaroto are saying i did. i DIDNT.; read the logs. i'm not apologizing for what i didn't do. if someone takes offense at someone saying their work is bad - well too bad. that's the reality. they should grow up and accept it, or give good reasons why the evaluation was wrong. the evaluation was very specific on specific aspects of the patches. armani did make a point about the mempool stuff - i pointed out that their patches were much greater thanneeded > Also, to be clear, I contact you on IRC about the private discussion I had > with Jonathan, talking to you about those patches. I clearly said that > some patches can be committed as-is, and some don't. I have warned you !! you asked me to look at them - that's fine. how am i meant to know exactly which ones you have already filtered out? > Now, I understand a bit more how I have to do the work : I don't talk to > you about stuff I know you won't be interested in (if you were > interesting in OpenBSD port, you won't have overreact like that). I'll do > it myself (like I did before I talked to you about those patches, it was > working nicely), talking privately to people, so that we could move on. god - why is everyone twisting this into something it wasn't. i never said that. if i didn't care i would not have even looked when you asked. > I'm really really upset to see all my "behind the scene" work to attract > people destroyed, and to finally see that you make them leave to project. > > No need to answer to that mail. I won't read your answer. I don't want to > spend endless time answering for nothing. > > Vincent very childish there. but you won't read this will you? > > > > End of topic. > > > > On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 4:11 AM, Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:43:37 -0500 Youness Alaoui > >> <[email protected]> said: > >> > >>> I don't need to read that (and I have better things to do than fight an > >>> endless war on who is right). > >> > >> then this ends this topic. if you don't want to look at the facts, there > >> is no point in this discussion. there is nothing to talk about with you. > >> > >> -- > >> ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- > >> The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [email protected] > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> RSA(R) Conference 2012 > >> Save $700 by Nov 18 > >> Register now > >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> enlightenment-devel mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > RSA(R) Conference 2012 > > Save $700 by Nov 18 > > Register now > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 > > _______________________________________________ > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [email protected] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ RSA(R) Conference 2012 Save $700 by Nov 18 Register now http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
