* Steven Le Roux <ste...@le-roux.info> [2012-11-14 17:43:49 +0100]:

> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Michael Blumenkrantz
> <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > B&W is available in trunk/THEMES
> 
> Yup, I know that
> 
> >
> > On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 17:13:54 +0100
> > Steven Le Roux <ste...@le-roux.info> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Am I the only one to be a bit disapointed by this new theme ?
> >>
> >> Maybe I was familiar to b&w but I found Dark to be... dark... where
> >> e17 could be clean and appear as an appeasement to all the people
> >> waiting for a great WM, bringing light !
> >>
> >> This one has many "pimp my desktop" feature looking cool (maybe too
> >> much) but as a user I find b&w more readable, clear etc.
> >>
> >> Maybe we could have two version of this theme ? "dark" and "light"
> >> just setting (almost) inverted colors from one to the other ?
> >> Or maybe just working on dark to be clearer... anyone knows a UI designer ?
> >>
> >> If it is a WIP maybe we could review what's ok/nok in a theme session on 
> >> IRC ?
> >
> > This theme was available for discussion in full XCF on the mailing list for 
> > weeks before development even began on it.
> 
> Oops, missed it.
> 
> As a user, I don't follow every single thread. My mistake.
> So I basically test things when I have some spare time exploring the
> trunk or when things are commited. I recently upgrade my install and I
> noticed the new default theme has been shipped... moreover this mail
> subject led me in to comment what I was thinking about. Sorry to be
> late...
> 
> Considering theme is a matter of taste, I was asking if I was the only
> one disappointed. Maybe yes, and it will be ok... maybe not and it's
> not too late to enhance it.
> 
> ++

For me, it's best theme so far, nice work, Raster. Only complaint:
weekday titles are not separated enough on the clock's calendar popup
(vertical shelf here).

Regards,

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Igor Murzov <e-m...@date.by> wrote:
> >> > On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:47:32 +0900
> >> > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:10:23 -0600 Jeff Hoogland 
> >> >> <jeffhoogl...@linux.com> said:
> >> >>
> >> >> > First off -
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'd like to say the new default theme is great. Aside from the 
> >> >> > numbers on
> >> >> > the digital clock I really like it.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That being said, why did the default theme changing break so much in
> >> >> > existing themes?
> >> >>
> >> >> the only thing that really broke was efm - the default efm fileman 
> >> >> window theme
> >> >> was just plain wrong. there was no actual swallowed layout at all. it 
> >> >> was
> >> >> hand-packed in code. this was a fundamental bug in the fileman module 
> >> >> and i
> >> >> fixed while doing the theme.
> >> >
> >> > That's clearly a bullshit. Dark theme is unusable (especially in EFM),
> >> > because it's too low-contrast:
> >> >
> >> >   http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-50a3bb0b588d26.24783831.png
> >> >
> >> > There are dark grey text on grey background, controls are all dark grey 
> >> > on grey
> >> > or light grey on grey -- it's ok if you want users of E to get red eyes.
> >> > And I would call this grey on grey style a fundamental bug.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -- Igor
> 
> 
> 
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