On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 22:53:33 -0200 Gustavo Lima Chaves <gl...@profusion.mobi> said:
> * Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> [2012-11-15 09:33:46 +0900]: > > > On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:48:27 -0200 Gustavo Lima Chaves > > <gl...@profusion.mobi> said: > > > > > * Steven Le Roux <ste...@le-roux.info> [2012-11-14 17:43:49 +0100]: > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Michael Blumenkrantz > > > > <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > B&W is available in trunk/THEMES > > > > > > > > Yup, I know that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 17:13:54 +0100 > > > > > Steven Le Roux <ste...@le-roux.info> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Hi all, > > > > >> > > > > >> Am I the only one to be a bit disapointed by this new theme ? > > > > >> > > > > >> Maybe I was familiar to b&w but I found Dark to be... dark... where > > > > >> e17 could be clean and appear as an appeasement to all the people > > > > >> waiting for a great WM, bringing light ! > > > > >> > > > > >> This one has many "pimp my desktop" feature looking cool (maybe too > > > > >> much) but as a user I find b&w more readable, clear etc. > > > > >> > > > > >> Maybe we could have two version of this theme ? "dark" and "light" > > > > >> just setting (almost) inverted colors from one to the other ? > > > > >> Or maybe just working on dark to be clearer... anyone knows a UI > > > > >> designer ? > > > > >> > > > > >> If it is a WIP maybe we could review what's ok/nok in a theme > > > > >> session on IRC ? > > > > > > > > > > This theme was available for discussion in full XCF on the mailing > > > > > list for weeks before development even began on it. > > > > > > > > Oops, missed it. > > > > > > > > As a user, I don't follow every single thread. My mistake. > > > > So I basically test things when I have some spare time exploring the > > > > trunk or when things are commited. I recently upgrade my install and I > > > > noticed the new default theme has been shipped... moreover this mail > > > > subject led me in to comment what I was thinking about. Sorry to be > > > > late... > > > > > > > > Considering theme is a matter of taste, I was asking if I was the only > > > > one disappointed. Maybe yes, and it will be ok... maybe not and it's > > > > not too late to enhance it. > > > > > > > > ++ > > > > > > For me, it's best theme so far, nice work, Raster. Only complaint: > > > weekday titles are not separated enough on the clock's calendar popup > > > (vertical shelf here). > > > > hmm - in fact they are the same font/text as in b&w... so that didnt > > change :) but yes - they are a bit cramped. but if i try add spacing and > > padding it doesnt work... something is up/wrong with the table layout in > > edje. it doesnt seem to be calculating min size of entires properly etc. at > > least not horizontally. vertically it does the right thing, but not > > horizontally. ok - figured it out... its calculating min size with all text > > fileds EMPTY... :) they dont have default content. :) fixed by providing > > default text in theme. :) > > Cool, thanks :) Will mixer, batter, etc get dark versions too? yes. everything. currently these are stolen from b&w - notice there is an O dir for edcs and O ir for images... O for OLD... :) thats why you'll see push-back from me on doing things like a light version, or of ednlessly fddling arond with elements at least until this is all done. THEN... comes the polish stage - little cosmetic changes here and there, THEN... can worry about light and othr colored versions. :) > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Igor Murzov <e-m...@date.by> wrote: > > > > >> > On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:47:32 +0900 > > > > >> > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> >> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:10:23 -0600 Jeff Hoogland > > > > >> >> <jeffhoogl...@linux.com> said: > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > First off - > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > I'd like to say the new default theme is great. Aside from the > > > > >> >> > numbers on the digital clock I really like it. > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > That being said, why did the default theme changing break so > > > > >> >> > much in existing themes? > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> the only thing that really broke was efm - the default efm fileman > > > > >> >> window theme was just plain wrong. there was no actual swallowed > > > > >> >> layout at all. it was hand-packed in code. this was a fundamental > > > > >> >> bug in the fileman module and i fixed while doing the theme. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > That's clearly a bullshit. Dark theme is unusable (especially in > > > > >> > EFM), because it's too low-contrast: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-50a3bb0b588d26.24783831.png > > > > >> > > > > > >> > There are dark grey text on grey background, controls are all dark > > > > >> > grey on grey or light grey on grey -- it's ok if you want users of > > > > >> > E to get red eyes. And I would call this grey on grey style a > > > > >> > fundamental bug. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > -- Igor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Steven Le Roux > > > > Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr > > > > 0x39494CCB <ste...@le-roux.info> > > > > 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single > > > > web console. 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