On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:36 AM, David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:28:32 +0000 Michael Blumenkrantz > <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 14:26:22 -0200 >> Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <barbi...@profusion.mobi> wrote: >> >> > On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Michael Blumenkrantz >> > <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 14:11:47 -0200 >> > > Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <barbi...@profusion.mobi> wrote: >> > > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Jeff Hoogland >> > >> <jeffhoogl...@linux.com> wrote: >> > >> > Is it possible to "link" multiple lists together so they >> > >> > scroll at the same time? >> > >> >> > >> you could simulate this (I do not recommend) by creating your own >> > >> gengrid item class and style. This style would define multiple >> > >> Edje parts, the cells for those columns. These have fixed size >> > >> (ie: 200px), or proportional size (ie: 20%) or even be >> > >> dynamically calculated and expand horizontally based on some >> > >> factor (the largest label?). In the last case you'd have to go >> > >> and call item.update() for every item, so they can expand to the >> > >> new maximum size. >> > >> >> > >> What I do recommend is you to look at every modern GUI and none >> > >> of those use these anymore. It's usually used for large number >> > >> of items, where the number of information can be overwhelming. >> > >> You better segment the information and plan what to show. For >> > >> instance, the package manager you sent should do what it >> > >> delegate to user... come on, show the "installed version" and >> > >> "available version"? Why not just an icon with tri-state: >> > >> installed and updated, installed and outdated, uninstalled. >> > >> Could even not be an icon, but a bg color to make it easy to >> > >> spot. If I were doing a package manager, I'd as well merge >> > >> similar packages with different parts, as it's useless to have >> > >> them in the main list, just click to open more details (instead >> > >> of show -dev, -dbg, -examples, -doc... you just show package >> > >> name, click and it expand (or another window/popup/frame) show >> > >> each element and status. >> > > >> > > while I agree that it's misused in most cases, I still see no >> > > better alternative for a desktop music player gui. the ability to >> > > dynamically see/sort aligned rows containing artist/track/title >> > > does not seem to be replaceable. >> > >> > It's a matter of getting used. For instance, I'm using iTunes >> > (http://www.apple.com/itunes/whats-new/) and like the new GUI, they >> > still have that view as an options, and that's the view when you >> > choose "all music", but they have these other that are nice to use: >> > >> > - >> > http://images.apple.com/itunes/whats-new/images/redesigned_player_albumview.jpg >> > you click the album and it expands in line with the music. >> > - >> > http://images.apple.com/itunes/whats-new/images/redesigned_player_bonusfeatures1.jpg >> > similar to the album, you click the artist and it will show albums >> > and top music. >> > - http://37signals.com/svn/images/itunes-album-view-large.jpg >> > previous album view, in list-like mode. >> > >> > The last one is more similar to a list, but as you can see it's not >> > a regular list, as some cells are expanded vertically inside an >> > album. So it's a custom widget/view as well. >> > >> > -- >> > Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri >> > http://profusion.mobi embedded systems >> > -------------------------------------- >> > MSN: barbi...@gmail.com >> > Skype: gsbarbieri >> > Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 >> >> hm that's kinda neat. I suppose I could see getting used to that, and >> it would look nice if I wanted something to show off, but I'd still >> prefer my extremely bland column-view for everyday use :/ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, >> MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills >> current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by >> Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnnow-d2d >> _______________________________________________ >> enlightenment-devel mailing list >> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > /me scratches his head. > > Er, that's a table, evas supports tables, edje supports tables, > elementary supports tables. Pffft > > Have you all vanished up your "we do things differently" arseholes so > far that none of you recognised a plain old ordinary table? No > disrespect intended. B-) > > BTW, tables are used on phones. It's not something that is old > fashioned and people are moving away from. Tables have their good > uses. Try doing a spreadsheet without one. Some popular file browsers > use tables by default to. E17 uses tables.
It's different. If you use a plain table inside a scroller, you'll run out of memory quite soon with package manager. It would create dozen Evas_Object for each row, dozen of thousands of rows and you're in problem. The genlist/gengrid will just create visual elements for visible elements (and spare more, depends on some settings). > Nooow, as for Elementary not really being a desktop widget set, I though > it's job was to support desktops as well as everything else? To be the > widget set to end all widget sets so that EFL no longer had two > different widget sets? To be as usable on the desktop as it is on > mobile phones and such? So that you only need to write one app for > all? Do we need to write a desktop widget set now? And what about the > plans to use elementary as the widget set for E18? Um, e18 is a > desktop thingy. B-) E17 or E18 doesn't have that table widget as well. -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -------------------------------------- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnnow-d2d _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
