On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:18:39 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <barbi...@profusion.mobi> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:36 AM, David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:28:32 +0000 Michael Blumenkrantz > > <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 14:26:22 -0200 > >> Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <barbi...@profusion.mobi> wrote: > >> > >> > On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Michael Blumenkrantz > >> > <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 14:11:47 -0200 > >> > > Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <barbi...@profusion.mobi> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Jeff Hoogland > >> > >> <jeffhoogl...@linux.com> wrote: > >> > >> > Is it possible to "link" multiple lists together so they > >> > >> > scroll at the same time? > >> > >> > >> > >> you could simulate this (I do not recommend) by creating your own > >> > >> gengrid item class and style. This style would define multiple > >> > >> Edje parts, the cells for those columns. These have fixed size > >> > >> (ie: 200px), or proportional size (ie: 20%) or even be > >> > >> dynamically calculated and expand horizontally based on some > >> > >> factor (the largest label?). In the last case you'd have to go > >> > >> and call item.update() for every item, so they can expand to the > >> > >> new maximum size. > >> > >> > >> > >> What I do recommend is you to look at every modern GUI and none > >> > >> of those use these anymore. It's usually used for large number > >> > >> of items, where the number of information can be overwhelming. > >> > >> You better segment the information and plan what to show. For > >> > >> instance, the package manager you sent should do what it > >> > >> delegate to user... come on, show the "installed version" and > >> > >> "available version"? Why not just an icon with tri-state: > >> > >> installed and updated, installed and outdated, uninstalled. > >> > >> Could even not be an icon, but a bg color to make it easy to > >> > >> spot. If I were doing a package manager, I'd as well merge > >> > >> similar packages with different parts, as it's useless to have > >> > >> them in the main list, just click to open more details (instead > >> > >> of show -dev, -dbg, -examples, -doc... you just show package > >> > >> name, click and it expand (or another window/popup/frame) show > >> > >> each element and status. > >> > > > >> > > while I agree that it's misused in most cases, I still see no > >> > > better alternative for a desktop music player gui. the ability to > >> > > dynamically see/sort aligned rows containing artist/track/title > >> > > does not seem to be replaceable. > >> > > >> > It's a matter of getting used. For instance, I'm using iTunes > >> > (http://www.apple.com/itunes/whats-new/) and like the new GUI, they > >> > still have that view as an options, and that's the view when you > >> > choose "all music", but they have these other that are nice to use: > >> > > >> > - > >> > http://images.apple.com/itunes/whats-new/images/redesigned_player_albumview.jpg > >> > you click the album and it expands in line with the music. > >> > - > >> > http://images.apple.com/itunes/whats-new/images/redesigned_player_bonusfeatures1.jpg > >> > similar to the album, you click the artist and it will show albums > >> > and top music. > >> > - http://37signals.com/svn/images/itunes-album-view-large.jpg > >> > previous album view, in list-like mode. > >> > > >> > The last one is more similar to a list, but as you can see it's not > >> > a regular list, as some cells are expanded vertically inside an > >> > album. So it's a custom widget/view as well. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > >> > http://profusion.mobi embedded systems > >> > -------------------------------------- > >> > MSN: barbi...@gmail.com > >> > Skype: gsbarbieri > >> > Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 > >> > >> hm that's kinda neat. I suppose I could see getting used to that, and > >> it would look nice if I wanted something to show off, but I'd still > >> prefer my extremely bland column-view for everyday use :/ > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, > >> MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills > >> current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by > >> Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: > >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnnow-d2d > >> _______________________________________________ > >> enlightenment-devel mailing list > >> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > /me scratches his head. > > > > Er, that's a table, evas supports tables, edje supports tables, > > elementary supports tables. Pffft > > > > Have you all vanished up your "we do things differently" arseholes so > > far that none of you recognised a plain old ordinary table? No > > disrespect intended. B-) > > > > BTW, tables are used on phones. It's not something that is old > > fashioned and people are moving away from. Tables have their good > > uses. Try doing a spreadsheet without one. Some popular file browsers > > use tables by default to. E17 uses tables. > > It's different. If you use a plain table inside a scroller, you'll run > out of memory quite soon with package manager. It would create dozen > Evas_Object for each row, dozen of thousands of rows and you're in > problem. > > The genlist/gengrid will just create visual elements for visible > elements (and spare more, depends on some settings). > > > > Nooow, as for Elementary not really being a desktop widget set, I though > > it's job was to support desktops as well as everything else? To be the > > widget set to end all widget sets so that EFL no longer had two > > different widget sets? To be as usable on the desktop as it is on > > mobile phones and such? So that you only need to write one app for > > all? Do we need to write a desktop widget set now? And what about the > > plans to use elementary as the widget set for E18? Um, e18 is a > > desktop thingy. B-) > > E17 or E18 doesn't have that table widget as well. > > -- > Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > http://profusion.mobi embedded systems > -------------------------------------- > MSN: barbi...@gmail.com > Skype: gsbarbieri > Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 > nothing big is happening with widgets or toolkits for E18 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnnow-d2d _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
