2014-08-04 10:49 GMT+02:00 Cedric BAIL <[email protected]>: > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Davide Andreoli <[email protected]> > wrote: > > 2014-08-04 9:33 GMT+02:00 Cedric BAIL <[email protected]>: > >> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Davide Andreoli <[email protected] > > > >> wrote: > >> > 2014-08-04 2:54 GMT+02:00 Daniel Juyung Seo <[email protected]>: > >> >> Hi, great job! > >> >> I had svn version of epymc but I can't even remember how it was > because > >> >> there were a lot of enhancements. > >> >> Thanks to you. > >> >> > >> >> By the way, I have a couple of comments. > >> >> 1. The icon and text sizes are too big compared with the default > >> elementary > >> >> theme with the default scalability. I had to manually scale it down > to > >> 0.5 > >> >> to match it with default elementary theme from the general > configuration > >> >> panel. Is there a reason behind this? > >> >> > >> > > >> > This is a media center, it is designed to be used in fullscreen from > your > >> > couch... > >> > Can you read the texts from the couch at 0.5 scale? this app is not > >> > designed > >> > to match the default elm theme for the desktop. > >> > But, if you really prefer a smaller scale (maybe your monitor has > >> different > >> > dpi?) > >> > you can adjust the interface scale right from the config, there's a > >> proper > >> > option > >> > for that. > >> > >> Hum, I think the intent of scale is different. We should define what > >> scale 1.0 means, but until now it has pretty much means that it is a > >> 90 dpi screen being read at 60 cm. Now your issue is with elementary > >> config and this is something we need to solve. Enlightenment make it > >> possible to specify an elementary profile per virtual desktop (If you > >> manage to find the configuration option). The idea being that we > >> should have a TV profile for elementary that will be used when we use > >> it with a TV screen. I would argue that Enlightenment need improvement > >> in that regard, but it would be neat to provide a config dialog with > >> widget preview when a screen is plugged in to solve this kind of > >> config hazard. > >> > >> Anyway point is, current situation need to improve. I understand why > >> you did that as it help users until we have a better configuration > >> infrastructure/UI, but when that happen Daniel will be perfectly > >> right. > >> > > > > Indeed all this is valid for desktop application, but this is a > mediacenter, > > it is designed to work without a desktop, without the need of a wm > > nor elm_config. In fact epymc don't use the default elm theme, it > implement > > it's own theme. And imo the scale is perfect as it is used now. > > Well, this is another problem we have also with elementary. > Terminology and Calaos also have this issue. Sometimes you want per > application configuration or you are in a setup where your application > take over the screen and want to manage elementary configuration. I > think there is two solutions to those problem. First we need the > concept of an elementary config overlay that does the same as a theme > overlay (but I don't know yet how to implement the save logic). Second > solution that I think we need a generic and themable widget for > configuring elementary and application itself. Elm_Pref is a step in > that direction, but there is more work to be done. > > Conclusion, you are perfectly right now, and I said so in my previous > mail, but it doesn't lead to a nice setup in all use case of your > application. We need to continuously think on how to improve our > framework to make the most of it. As an example of issue with current > situation, what happen if I don't have a TV, but use a tablet as a > replacement.
If you are using a table, you just need to adjust the scale in epymc, I'm not getting your point... > You see, we have more work to do in the configuration > department of Elementary. We are not done yet... Will we ever be done > ! > -- > Cedric BAIL > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Infragistics Professional > Build stunning WinForms apps today! > Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. > Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
