John wrote:

So, no, it is NOT dead, and if you want more info, I'd be happy to give some to you.


I read a message by Ben Rockwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 2004-03-14 11:25

Please refer to the following news post on the Enlightenment.org website
in Sept:

After months of restraint heres the big update as to where E is and is
going. Enlightenment DR17, the window manager currently in e17 CVS, is
dead. As was mentioned in the State of E address awhile back the current
WM code needs a complete rewrite, and thus the current code is nothing but
a test platform. There is currently no publicly available WM code for
DR17, but the initial CVS commit will be coming in the next month or two.

Many lessons were learned from the WM code that currently exists in CVS,
namely that even in CVS we stretched the limits of what Ebits could do.
This prompted Raster several months ago to scrap it and start work on
Edje. Edje is essentially Ebits2 in concept, but is drastically different
from the original Ebits implementation. Edje uses EET instead of EDB which
Ebits uses, and truly does what Ebits hoped to do: abstract completely an
applications interface from its code base. Edje theming doesn't just put a
new image in place of the default. It actually can completely change the
feel of the user interface, rather than just its appearance. On top of
this Edje supports animation! This means that DR17 will not be just
another static looking window manager, it will have smooth animations and
effects -- from simple fades and bounces to window borders that consist of
swirling colors.


We do not any longer support the E module in e17 CVS. In fact, we never supported it. You can also note the same thing from the header of the E17 page on cuddletech:

WARNING WARNING!!!: This Page is HISTORICAL! DR17 as you see it here does
not work, or build.
It is being completely rewritten to be bigger and better than anything you
see here.
So look, and enjoy, but don't plan on using it.


So he mean on september DR 17 people starts to re-write? Is it what Brooks talked about "build it to throw it away"? I think any reasonably large project like E will likely take more than one year to build & test, so DR17 (sorry is there a roadmap publicly available?) is not likely to come out this year? Oh no that will be 6 years to wait totally, if not any longer ......


There is at least one Japanese developper on the team, whose screen name is Rasterman.
He reads this list as well I believe.

So, patience my friend, E17 will come out, sooner or later. I have been waiting for almost 5 years for it to come out, and I'm happy enough seeing the progress made with the other applications like Evidence and Entrance.

Concerning the China firewall, can you access personal webpages? I'd be happy to copy some of the news from E on my website from time to time, if you and other chinese E-Users can access it.

What is your website address? I think if Enlightenment.org consists of mostly static pages, you can mirror it, or you can make a mirror site like enlightenment.cn (this domain is not registered, I checked. I can register it.)



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