Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 10:17:59 +0800 Wouter van Marle
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>>>What is your website address? I think if Enlightenment.org consists of
>>>mostly static pages, you can mirror it, or you can make a mirror site
>>>like enlightenment.cn (this domain is not registered, I checked. I can
>>>register it.)
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>>Falling off-topic: You may have a hard time registering
>>"Enlightenment.cn" in China. Enlightenment is not only a Buddhist term,
>>it carries some more political charge. That's why I think China blocks
>>"enlightenment.org". It's not a country that would want their people
>>enlightened (they even try to keep Hong Kong down! Not that that really
>>seems to work here...), and their track record on political issues is
>>not exactly great. Then they probably block websites more on
>>name/topic/keyword than actual content, as that saves them a lot of
>>work.
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>just a point: maybe someone should point out they are blocking a site that is
>non political and all about software? china is making a big thing of pushing
>linux to be used there and blocking sites that are development "portals" for
>what is primarily linux based software is to their detriment. i personally would
>like more chinese people to use E and maybe contribute later with translations,
>internationalization etc.
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>i have gone to effort now to support utf-8 and internationalisation and i am
>learning japanese, so to a large extent i can solve the underlying problems
>chinese localisation will suffer by virtual of solving japanese, but i can't
>help with things like translation files etc. this isn't an immediate issue, but
>in the long term i'td be nicer to harness that vast population china has and get
>some help in supporting their language (and for that matter - what the hell is
>the chinese input system? japanese is complex enough! :):) )
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>anyway = so maybe its worth finding the appropriate authorities and pointing
>this out asking them to take a look. i don't know how it works there, but maybe
>they will remove this particular block, or make an exception as it is along
>their political interests to support linux (and thus any development related to
>it).
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I don't think you totally understand the chinese government. If someone
from the inside of the country tries to point out they made even a minor
mistake, I wouldn't be surprised if the government managed to make him
"accidentaly" disappear.
It is rather our role, as outsiders, to point out they are excluding too
many things, and especially good ones.
I think it would be better if we found an official government email, and
sent them an official (and open) letter, asking them to at least verify
some of the adresses they block which mainly address opensource
software. It will be a first step in making them revise their
"websecurity policy".
Do not underestimate the government, sometimes it sounds as if they have
more ego than the leader in Pyong-Yang or our delightful Mr. Bush.
Remember their history, they've always been extremely proud and tend to
"snob" any non-asian organization, whether it's a government or a
company or a group of people like the one that makes the E-users community.
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