It would appear that on Mar 21, Carsten Haitzler did say:
> On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 13:36:53 -0400 "Joe(theWordy)Philbrook" <[email protected]>
> said:
>
> >
> > Well xterm may work better with xprop. But I have enough difficulty with
> > manipulating the mouse well enough to mark a selection of text, that it
> > matters to me that with Konsole I can then right click "c" {copy} And then
> > use
> > ^V to paste to *_CURSOR_* position in most gui apps {most commonly pasting a
> > URL into a Firefox's location field} without having to carefully position
> > the
> > uncooperative mouse cursor to exactly the right spot while I emulate middle
> > click on my two button trackball. And/or {better yet} mark text with the
>
> thats how xterm works.. but not ctrl+c/v - middle mouse click to paste. just
> hilight to copy. old school x style. :) you can skip the ctrl+c bit :)
That part works in a Konsole to, Provided I want to paste via middle click.
Which presents two difficulties for me. Both related to having poor mouse
coordination.
(1)When I paste to any gui application via the middle click.
invariably the text cursor is first moved to the mouse pointer position.
Since I have difficulty correctly positioning anything with the mouse I
find it much easier to position the text cursor with the keyboard and then
use a keyboard shortcut to paste to it. Hence the right click menu
followed by the "c" to copy the marked text to the correct buffer for
pasting with ^V...
(2)I sometimes need to make several attempts, just to mark the
correct text string with the mouse. Once I finally get the right text
segment marked, I'm not willing to trust my poor mouse coordination to
attempt emulating the middle click by cording the left and right buttons,
because I'm just as likely to accidentally mark something new as to actually
paste the contents that used to be in the gpm clipboard. {sigh}
> > keyboard in some gui app such as LibreOffice, copy it with ^C and then I
> > only
> > have to keep that durned mouse pointer anywhere within the konsole screen
> > While I right-click then type "p" to paste it to the cursor position of
> > konsole. With xterm I don't get the right click menu. And I detest the HOLD
> > THE BUTTON DOWN WHILE SELECTING method used by xterms <ctrl>+<LeftButton>
> > and
> > <ctrl>+<RightButton> menus (for on the fly adjustments) Nor have I figured
> > out
>
> gee. i barely ever touch those :) so it doesnt bother me :)
>
> > how to alter the color settings on the fly for those times when my tired
> > eyes
> > NEED a change and I'm already many screenfuls deep into a LONG file...
>
> aaah i've never needed to :)
>
To be honest, I'm more likely to increase the font size on the fly than
alter the color settings, but either way its much easier to only have to
click once, someplace in the word "settings" on the menubar and then I can
navigate konsole's menu with the keyboard. And in fact, depending on which
distro I'm running I can often use the alt key to toggle the focus to the
menu buttons and not need to touch that durned rodent at all.
> > I'm just glad that so far them KDE devs haven't messed up Konsole so far
> > that I can't use it. As while there are a few alternatives, There isn't any
> > such thing as a good replacement. But give them enough time, and it's bound
> > to happen. and then I'll likely make more use of xterm...
>
> one of these days we have to modernize eterm (or start afresh) and make an e
> terminal that fits in with modern efl (uses evas, edje, ecore etc.)... one of
> these days.
Speaking of Eterm, how about a trip down memory lane? I have an old memory
backed up by an old screenshot of a surreal landscape image with a command
prompt printed on the upper lefthand corner and a boarder that referred to the
terminal window as being something called "Eterm-0.8.10". At the time I was a
kde user. And I hadn't even heard of Enlightenment yet. But somehow I found
this Eterm terminal that displayed a different surreal landscape as a
background image every time I initialized it. Though if memory serves, I found
it hard to actually use because the background image often interfered with the
legibility of the text. S0 what I did was to open a full screen session of it
on the desktop area that kde started with, and saved the kde session. I didn't
actually use the terminal, I just pretended it was fancy "wallpaper" and opened
a konsole if I actually needed a terminal. That was a long time ago. And I can
no longer even remember which distro I was using at the time. But perhaps you
remember an old Eterm version with fancy background images...
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