On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 00:56:21 -0400 "Joe(theWordy)Philbrook" <[email protected]> said:
> > It would appear that on Mar 21, Carsten Haitzler did say: > > > On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 13:36:53 -0400 "Joe(theWordy)Philbrook" > > <[email protected]> said: > > > > > > > > Well xterm may work better with xprop. But I have enough difficulty with > > > manipulating the mouse well enough to mark a selection of text, that it > > > matters to me that with Konsole I can then right click "c" {copy} And > > > then use ^V to paste to *_CURSOR_* position in most gui apps {most > > > commonly pasting a URL into a Firefox's location field} without having to > > > carefully position the uncooperative mouse cursor to exactly the right > > > spot while I emulate middle click on my two button trackball. And/or > > > {better yet} mark text with the > > > > thats how xterm works.. but not ctrl+c/v - middle mouse click to paste. just > > hilight to copy. old school x style. :) you can skip the ctrl+c bit :) > > That part works in a Konsole to, Provided I want to paste via middle click. > Which presents two difficulties for me. Both related to having poor mouse > coordination. > (1)When I paste to any gui application via the middle click. > invariably the text cursor is first moved to the mouse pointer position. THAT behavior in apps/toolkits, i find INCREDIBLY annoying. :( > Since I have difficulty correctly positioning anything with the mouse I > find it much easier to position the text cursor with the keyboard and then > use a keyboard shortcut to paste to it. Hence the right click menu > followed by the "c" to copy the marked text to the correct buffer for > pasting with ^V... sure, but in xterm it'll go where the text cursor is.. YAY! :) > (2)I sometimes need to make several attempts, just to mark the > correct text string with the mouse. Once I finally get the right text > segment marked, I'm not willing to trust my poor mouse coordination to > attempt emulating the middle click by cording the left and right buttons, > because I'm just as likely to accidentally mark something new as to actually > paste the contents that used to be in the gpm clipboard. {sigh} have u tried double/triple click and customising the "cut chars" (the chars where the term decides a word begins/ends). i use: XTerm*.charClass: 37-38:48,43:48,45-57:48,60:48,62:48,64-90:48,95:48,97-122:48,124:48,126:48 very much more usable for me :) > > > keyboard in some gui app such as LibreOffice, copy it with ^C and then I > > > only have to keep that durned mouse pointer anywhere within the konsole > > > screen While I right-click then type "p" to paste it to the cursor > > > position of konsole. With xterm I don't get the right click menu. And I > > > detest the HOLD THE BUTTON DOWN WHILE SELECTING method used by xterms > > > <ctrl>+<LeftButton> and <ctrl>+<RightButton> menus (for on the fly > > > adjustments) Nor have I figured out > > > > gee. i barely ever touch those :) so it doesnt bother me :) > > > > > how to alter the color settings on the fly for those times when my tired > > > eyes NEED a change and I'm already many screenfuls deep into a LONG > > > file... > > > > aaah i've never needed to :) > > > To be honest, I'm more likely to increase the font size on the fly than > alter the color settings, but either way its much easier to only have to > click once, someplace in the word "settings" on the menubar and then I can > navigate konsole's menu with the keyboard. And in fact, depending on which > distro I'm running I can often use the alt key to toggle the focus to the > menu buttons and not need to touch that durned rodent at all. > > > > I'm just glad that so far them KDE devs haven't messed up Konsole so far > > > that I can't use it. As while there are a few alternatives, There isn't > > > any such thing as a good replacement. But give them enough time, and it's > > > bound to happen. and then I'll likely make more use of xterm... > > > > one of these days we have to modernize eterm (or start afresh) and make an e > > terminal that fits in with modern efl (uses evas, edje, ecore etc.)... one > > of these days. > > Speaking of Eterm, how about a trip down memory lane? I have an old memory > backed up by an old screenshot of a surreal landscape image with a command > prompt printed on the upper lefthand corner and a boarder that referred to the > terminal window as being something called "Eterm-0.8.10". At the time I was a > kde user. And I hadn't even heard of Enlightenment yet. But somehow I found > this Eterm terminal that displayed a different surreal landscape as a > background image every time I initialized it. Though if memory serves, I found yup. random background feature. picks 1 from a list. :) > it hard to actually use because the background image often interfered with the > legibility of the text. S0 what I did was to open a full screen session of it yeah. poor choice in backgrounds to make sure they contrast from the text colors. that's all. you could change the wallpaper set yourself if u wanted to. > on the desktop area that kde started with, and saved the kde session. I didn't > actually use the terminal, I just pretended it was fancy "wallpaper" and > opened a konsole if I actually needed a terminal. That was a long time ago. > And I can no longer even remember which distro I was using at the time. But > perhaps you remember an old Eterm version with fancy background images... > > -- > | --- ___ > | <0> <-> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook > | ^ J(tWdy)P > | ~\___/~ <<[email protected]>> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF email is sponsosred by: > Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here > http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [email protected] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
