On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 16:39:12 +0000 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said:
> On Thursday 22 Nov 2012 07:05:57 Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> > On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 06:42:18 +0000 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said:
> > > On Thursday 22 Nov 2012 00:28:13 Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> > > > window managers.. x apps never read xorg.conf - xorg does. they fetch
> > > > info from x via x protocol - and make changes via it too. the kbd
> > > > layout (xkbswitch) module changes layout by executing the setxkbmap
> > > > binary. e will output to stdout what it runs with "SET XKB RUN: ...."
> > > >
> > > > run e from a terminal in another xserver (xephyr for example) and see.
> > > >
> > > > when i change kbd layout (eg to japanese - where i know the layout is
> > > > different and exactly which keys change), but it just doesnt work for
> > > > polish. setxkbmap pl doesnt make my 'z' key become 'y' (by looking at
> > > > polish kbd layouts on line - it should... no? shift+2 should be " not @
> > > > etc.)... all of this works for japanese layout just fine (where these
> > > > changes do happen), so at least for me here, xkb itself is broken when
> > > > setting "pl" as a layout.
> > >
> > > Same in UK vs US keyboard layouts. In UK Shift+2 should give " and in
> > > the US keyboard it should be @. In alpha3 I get:
> > >
> > > $ setxkbmap -query
> > > rules: evdev
> > > model: default
> > > layout: us,gb,
> > > options:
> > > grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,compose:menu,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
> > >
> > > While, in say fluxbox I get:
> > >
> > > $ setxkbmap -query
> > > rules: evdev
> > > model: default
> > > layout: gb,el
> > > options:
> > > grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,compose:menu,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't know where e17 reads the US layout from ... but running
> > > 'setxkbmap gb' in a terminal works fine.
> >
> > if it isnt in the xkbswitch config dialog/menu then e doesnt read the us
> > kbd layout from anywhere... it SETs just the list of kbdlayotus u have in
> > your config. nothing more. it could be u have gnome and kde stuff enabled
> > in the desktop config and gnome/kde tools are setting up the kbdlayout
> > too.. and so e17 and they fight.. last guy in wins... and last guy
> > probably is gnome/kde not e :)
>
>
> I have kde on this box, although never run kde DE. I start e17 from kdm in
> case this makes a difference.
>
> Anyway, just to check I launched KDE to see what gives and it correctly reads
> my xorg.conf settings. I diff'ed the output of 'setxkbmap -print -verbose
> 10' in e17 and kde to see the difference and here is what it shows:
kde, fluxbox and e17 dont read your xorg.conf settings. xorg does. i am sure i
said that already. fluxbox just does nothing - it takes things as-is most
likely. kde - i don't know. e17 - there is a xkb keyboard layout system that
will set up a kbd layout based on config stored in e17's config - there is a
whole settings dialog for it. e literally runs setxkbmap to set up the
mappings. in your ~/.xsession-errors it will print out some debug letting u
know what that command is. check that file.
> ========================================
> $ diff enlightenment_xkb.txt kde_xkb.txt
> 8,9c8,9
> < model: default
> < layout: us,gb,
> ---
> > model: evdev
> > layout: gb,el
> 15c15
> < symbols:
> pc+us+gb:2+inet(evdev)+group(alt_shift_toggle)+compose(menu)+terminate
> (ctrl_alt_bksp)
> ---
> > symbols:
> pc+gb+gr:2+inet(evdev)+group(alt_shift_toggle)+compose(menu)+terminate
> (ctrl_alt_bksp) 21c21
> < xkb_symbols { include
> "pc+us+gb:2+inet(evdev)+group(alt_shift_toggle)+compose(menu)+terminate
> (ctrl_alt_bksp)" };
> ---
> > xkb_symbols { include
> "pc+gb+gr:2+inet(evdev)+group(alt_shift_toggle)+compose(menu)+terminate
> (ctrl_alt_bksp)" };
> ========================================
>
>
> My /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf contains:
> ========================================
> Section "InputClass"
> Identifier "evdev keyboard catchall"
> MatchIsKeyboard "on"
> MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
> Driver "evdev"
> Option "XkbLayout" "gb,el"
> Option "XkbOptions"
> "grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,compose:menu,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"
> EndSection
> ========================================
>
>
> So, KDE and fluxbox are happy to use what I have set up in my xorg.conf
> (which uses evdev to manage the keyboard settings), but e17 sets up a
> 'default' model which has US and GB as the available languages. Where is
> that being read from, so that I can change it?
>
> PS. I did not have this problem before the alpha versions arrived. :-/
> --
> Regards,
> Mick
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