Quoting "Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)" <ras...@rasterman.com>:
[...]
> connman is just that. it displays if you are on wifi or wired, a   
> little green or
> orange light if "the internet works" and a quick click on it lists all wifi
> access points (or wired connections available) and has the one you are
> connected to indicated as on or not. (green/orange light on icon).

Thank you, that sounds perfect, but...

> connman module not loaded? note - it requires the connman daemon to be doing
> the network selection and management. this has been there since   
> before e17 came out. still is.

I don't see any sign of any connman module anywhere. I don't know if  
this is just an omission from the e17 package provided via the Xubuntu  
repos, or my lack of understanding.

Settings>Modules has no category for networking, and there is nothing  
called connman anywhere in the categories shown. Is this something I  
need to download and add on?

Quoting Teodoro Santoni <asbras...@gmail.com>:
> In the enlightenment git I saw sometimes ago the econnman gadget. But it
> obviously requires to replace xubuntu's network manager with connman. Or to
> make them work in some way side to side, or deactivate one and fire up the
> other, whatever...

So in a moment of rashness I installed the Xubuntu connman,  
connman-doc, connman-dev, and connman-debug packages, which forced the  
removal of the network-manager packages. Not a sensible thing to do,  
because once I power down, my connection will not come back.

connman appears to be just a daemon, with a very sparse man page, so  
it's unclear to me (a) how to tell it to do something, and (b) what  
inside e17 is supposed to talk to it. As I now have connman installed  
and network-manager uninstalled, I don't see any information about how  
to reconnect to my networks using connman.

I am clearly missing some vital piece of information here. If I mark  
the connmand daemon for startup at boot time, how do I tell e17 to  
talk to it, scan for APs, and offer me connections?

I see from a lot of web pages that this is a common problem, eg  
http://slackblogs.blogspot.ie/2013/02/econnman-for-e17.html :

>> I finally add the last missing piece of E17 components and that is econnman.

I can see references to this for various minority Linux distros, but  
there doesn't seem to be a .deb anywhere.

>> This is not a mandatory packages as this package only provides UI  
>> for connman, a network manager used in E17 DE. Basically, the  
>> default connman is
>> enough for daily usage as you only have to click

This is the core problem: click on WHAT? connman is daemon and a  
command-line program, not a GUI app. This is the bit I'm missing.

>> and it will try to connect or prompt for password if you are  
>> connected to WiFI.

That would be perfect if there was anything to click on...

Sorry for the ramble, but this one is seriously opaque to me. I'm not  
clear if this is even achievable using the prebuilt e17 .deb, as it  
seems to be missing anything to bind to connmand.

///Peter

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