Hi again!

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:41 AM, Jehan Pagès <jehan.marmott...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:14 AM, Manuel Quiñones
> <manuel.por....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2014-09-22 19:43 GMT-03:00 Jehan Pagès <jehan.marmott...@gmail.com>:
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> Right now, I am using my nice EOS 50D when I hack on Entangle. But I
>>> think this might not be the best idea on the long term. As we all
>>> know, cameras have limited lifetime depending on the shutter usage in
>>> particular (and when I test, I sometimes do a lot of crappy useless
>>> photos). And I may also want to do some workshops where I may want to
>>> take a lot of photos (for stop-motion).
>>
>> A good stopmotion feature would be: use the output of the live view
>> directly for testing, without closing the shutter.
>
> Would be nice. Is it good quality enough? I mean, can it also be used
> for finale imaging too (if we do an actual stopmotion movie and want a
> nice image), or only for testing, as you seem to say?
> I don't know enough to know what is the difference between the preview
> image and what is actually taken as a normal shot.
>
> But yeah even with average image quality, that would still be very
> interesting for all the time I don't care about having great quality.
>
>> This is sometimes called 'electronic shutter' as opposed to
>> 'mechanical shutter', and is the same photo cameras use to take video.
>
> Daniel, this kind of feature would be feasible, no? After all, you get
> the preview already displayed. It should not be too difficult to dump
> it in a file directly...

This seemed like a very nice idea, so I had a look in the code. That
looks very straightforward to implement this feature because there is
already all the code to get the preview. Actually I may have even
already done a dumb version of it. Unfortunately I can't test it right
now because I don't have my camera with me.
I'll go to bed and test tomorrow. I guess this will be also one of my
next patches. :-)

Jehan

> By the way, I have some nice stop-motion related code in my locale
> repository. Well I started yesterday so it is far from presentable,
> and I may want to review some of the design, but I can already "play"
> the images as a video, and it works well. :-)
> Just a heads-up on what is coming.
>
>>> Do you have any advice on a nice camera, cheap but still not too
>>> crappy? Something I could buy second hand on ebay or some place like
>>> this for just a few bucks but still give me acceptable quality...
>>> Canon would be preferred since I have a Canon already, so I could
>>> reuse the lenses (unless you propose me something else than DSLR,
>>> without lens changing, why not).
>>
>> No advice on any particular camera, but I would first check if having
>> a shutter replacement is cheaper.  I've heard this is common practice
>> in stopmotion feature films.
>
> Oh ok. Well that makes sense when we do an actual movie.
> But for all the tests, demos or workshop, I think it would still make sense.
> I mean, you can get really cheap second hand cameras for a few dozen
> euros. I searched a little after reading your message and found a
> shutter replacement for my camera would cost around 200 € (though that
> was someone saying this a few years ago, so it may be more expensive
> if technology changed. But maybe shutter technology, since it's
> mechanics, doesn't evolve much?). In any ways, thanks for the input.
> That's good to know there is always this possibility.
>
>> Cheers,
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jehan

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