Hi,

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Manuel Quiñones
<manuel.por....@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2014-09-22 21:07 GMT-03:00 Jehan Pagès <jehan.marmott...@gmail.com>:
>> Hi again!
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:41 AM, Jehan Pagès <jehan.marmott...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:14 AM, Manuel Quiñones
>>> <manuel.por....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 2014-09-22 19:43 GMT-03:00 Jehan Pagès <jehan.marmott...@gmail.com>:
>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>
>>>>> Right now, I am using my nice EOS 50D when I hack on Entangle. But I
>>>>> think this might not be the best idea on the long term. As we all
>>>>> know, cameras have limited lifetime depending on the shutter usage in
>>>>> particular (and when I test, I sometimes do a lot of crappy useless
>>>>> photos). And I may also want to do some workshops where I may want to
>>>>> take a lot of photos (for stop-motion).
>>>>
>>>> A good stopmotion feature would be: use the output of the live view
>>>> directly for testing, without closing the shutter.
>>>
>>> Would be nice. Is it good quality enough? I mean, can it also be used
>>> for finale imaging too (if we do an actual stopmotion movie and want a
>>> nice image), or only for testing, as you seem to say?
>>> I don't know enough to know what is the difference between the preview
>>> image and what is actually taken as a normal shot.
>>>
>>> But yeah even with average image quality, that would still be very
>>> interesting for all the time I don't care about having great quality.
>>>
>>>> This is sometimes called 'electronic shutter' as opposed to
>>>> 'mechanical shutter', and is the same photo cameras use to take video.
>>>
>>> Daniel, this kind of feature would be feasible, no? After all, you get
>>> the preview already displayed. It should not be too difficult to dump
>>> it in a file directly...
>>
>> This seemed like a very nice idea, so I had a look in the code. That
>> looks very straightforward to implement this feature because there is
>> already all the code to get the preview. Actually I may have even
>> already done a dumb version of it. Unfortunately I can't test it right
>> now because I don't have my camera with me.
>> I'll go to bed and test tomorrow. I guess this will be also one of my
>> next patches. :-)
>>
>> Jehan
>>
>>> By the way, I have some nice stop-motion related code in my locale
>>> repository. Well I started yesterday so it is far from presentable,
>>> and I may want to review some of the design, but I can already "play"
>>> the images as a video, and it works well. :-)
>>> Just a heads-up on what is coming.
>>>
>>>>> Do you have any advice on a nice camera, cheap but still not too
>>>>> crappy? Something I could buy second hand on ebay or some place like
>>>>> this for just a few bucks but still give me acceptable quality...
>>>>> Canon would be preferred since I have a Canon already, so I could
>>>>> reuse the lenses (unless you propose me something else than DSLR,
>>>>> without lens changing, why not).
>>>>
>>>> No advice on any particular camera, but I would first check if having
>>>> a shutter replacement is cheaper.  I've heard this is common practice
>>>> in stopmotion feature films.
>>>
>>> Oh ok. Well that makes sense when we do an actual movie.
>>> But for all the tests, demos or workshop, I think it would still make sense.
>>> I mean, you can get really cheap second hand cameras for a few dozen
>>> euros. I searched a little after reading your message and found a
>>> shutter replacement for my camera would cost around 200 € (though that
>>> was someone saying this a few years ago, so it may be more expensive
>>> if technology changed. But maybe shutter technology, since it's
>>> mechanics, doesn't evolve much?). In any ways, thanks for the input.
>>> That's good to know there is always this possibility.
>
> This is great news Jehan :)

Hop patch uploaded: https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?22709

Now let's wait for Daniel's feedback. :-)

Jehan

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