I will be following this thread because we have had user complaints of poor 
service too, even though the signal strength seems to be OK. We don't usually 
have your user/AP density though. For the most part we are 3620, with some 
3710. The other difference is that we specify 40MHz channel-width on radio-1 
(5GHz) and 20MHz width on the 2.4GHz band. Our theory is that allowing a wide 
channel-width on the congested 2.4GHz band may create interference and we are 
willing to live with the lower bandwidth there for 2.4GHz "n". 

One thing that I have noticed in poking around is that the AP's seem to do a 
poor job of auto channel selection. While the primary channel (on the 40MHz 
wide radio-1) may be fine, in a significant number of cases the second "bonded" 
channel seems to have a problem (listed as "down" in the AP Inventory Report). 
When I manually locate a different primary channel that does successfully bond 
with its secondary, then everything seems fine, and these changes even "stick" 
between reboots.  

Our other observation is that an AP reboot seems to at least temporarily clear 
our problems, although doing that regularly is a pain. It is not clear to me if 
the channel-bonding issue is really "the answer", and we are still groping 
around on this.

JD

-----Original Message-----
From: Eklund Kendt [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 8:28 AM
To: Enterasys Customer Mailing List
Subject: [enterasys] Best AP/Radio config for high client/AP density?

I have an open GTAC case and am waiting for the standard Enterasys 
recommendations, but I'm curious what others have seen in the real world.  We 
have had reports of client connection issues at one school with a heavy Mac 
deployment in a group of adjacent classrooms.
Controller - C5110-2 firmware 8.31.03.0011 APs - 3610 - 1 per classroom Clients 
- MacAir OS X 10.8.4 (google search show other folks having WiFi issues if 
there is heavy channel interference), 33 per classroom.
SSIDs - 2 deployed, one hidden, both using NAC/RADIUS for authentication 
Topology is Bridge@AP for these authenticated clients

I've tried to push the config recommended from the help pages, but for some 
reason bulk AP radio configs are not sticking (I changed several of the ones 
listed below but looking at the current config they are not active).  I did 
enable DCS in active mode and will be onsite to monitor today - current radio 
configs are:

Radio 1:
Admin Mode: On
Radio Mode: a/n
Channel Width: Auto
Guard Interval: Short
ATPC: Enabled
Max Tx Power: 24 dbm
Min Tx Power: 8 dbm
Auto Tx Power Ctrl Adj: 0 dbm
Channel Plan: All Non-DFS-Channels
Ant Selection: L/M/R
Advanced:
DTIM Period: 5
Beacon Period: 100
RTS/CTS Threshold: 2346
Frag. Threshold: 2346
Maximum Distance: 100
Dynamic Channel Selection: Active Mode
DCS Noise Threshold: -80
DCS Channel Occupancy Threshold: 100
DCS Update Period: 5
Min Basic Rate: 6Mbps
Max % of non-unicast traffic: 100
Optimized for power save: unchecked
Adaptable Rate: unchecked
Multicast to Unicast delivery: Disabled
Protection Mode: Always
Protection Type: CTS only
40Mhz Channel Busy Threshold: 50
Aggregate MSDUs: Disabled
Aggregate MPDUs: Disabled
Aggregate MPDU Max Length: 65535
Agg. MPDU Max # of Sub-frames: 64
ADDBA Support: Enabled


Radio 2:
Admin Mode: On
Radio Mode: b/g/n
Channel Width: Auto
Guard Interval: Long
ATPC: Enabled
Max Tx Power: 24 dbm
Min Tx Power: 8 dbm
Auto Tx Power Ctrl Adj: 0 dbm
Channel Plan: 3-Channel Plan
Ant Selection: L/M/R
Advanced:
DTIM Period: 5
Beacon Period: 100
RTS/CTS Threshold: 2346
Frag. Threshold: 2346
Maximum Distance: 100
Dynamic Channel Selection: Active Mode
DCS Noise Threshold: -80
DCS Channel Occupancy Threshold: 100
DCS Update Period: 5
Min Basic Rate: 11 Mbps
Max % of non-unicast traffic: 100
Optimized for power save: unchecked
Adaptable Rate: unchecked
Multicast to Unicast delivery: Disabled
11b:
Preamble: Long
11g:
Protection Mode: Auto
Protection Rate: 11 Mbps
Protection Type: CTS only
11n:
Protection Mode: Always
Protection Type: CTS only
40Mhz Channel Busy Threshold: 50
Aggregate MSDUs: Disabled
Aggregate MPDUs: Disabled
Aggregate MPDU Max Length: 65535
Agg. MPDU Max # of Sub-frames: 64
ADDBA Support: Disabled

I could go back and set them based on the 'High Throughput' settings list from 
the controller online help, but I don't want ot just randomly change settings 
without further logging or the recommendations from GTAC.

Thanks for any info!


Kendt Eklund
Executive Supervisor, Data Infrastructure Moore County Schools - Technology
180 Pinckney Rd. - Carthage, NC 28327
910-947-6672 Fax: 910-947-1808
Email: [email protected]






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