I'm curious, and have a qustion or two.

On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 02:50:03 -0800, Scott Haneda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is more a note for the developers, though I am sure if some of you
> chime in, it may help them notice this is a issue.
> 
> Some stats:
> Dual G5, 2 Gigs Memory, 2 drive Raid
> 
> Identity: Main Identity
> Folders: 70
> Messages: 48,444
> Data Folder Size: 397mb
> 
> If I click on a single email, in this case 384k in size, plain text, it will
> take about 8-10 seconds to deal with the display of that email.  During that

That is a HUGE MESSAGE for plain text. It would print out to something
around 100 pages. I don't think you'd see much faster performance in
any mail program. But, one suggestion: make sure you have chosen a
fixed space font for plain text display, such as Monaco or Courier. I
believe that will display faster than a variable spaced font like
Times or Helvetica.

> time, I have a spinning beach ball, Entourage can do nothing else during
> this time.
> 
> In general, Entourage seems to be only able to handle one action at a time.
> For example, it puts undo connection times on my email server, total time to
> connect 6 pop accounts is about 12 seconds.  Total time to connect 6 pop
> accounts to the same email server using Outlook on windows is under 1
> second.  During the time the connections are in progress, I can click and
> hold on the connection monitor list, during that click and hold, no further
> action in Entourage can happen.  IE: I just found a way to steal 6 pop
> connections from a email server for as long as I like, or at least until
> they timeout on the pop server.
> 
This sounds more like a need to protect Entourage against people who
do something malicious like "stealing connections from a mail server"
for no purpose.

> The same 384k email when viewed, can not be resized as it will invoke such a
> stall in Entourage that you can not move the mouse to grab the window.  At
> least, when you do, you are so much ahead of it that it makes a mess of what
> you are trying to do.

I do not experience any resize problems with my larger messages,
although none approach 384K.

> 
> In pretty much any of the scenarios above, I can see both CPU's on my
> machine spike to 70% or slightly more, yes, that much for a email client!
> 

Something isn't right here. And I'm not sure the problem is with Entourage.

> Launching the app in general takes too long compared to other apps, though
> this is at least tolerable since I need only do it once a day.
> 
Do you have any schedules set to run at launch? Do you have custom
views open that build when you launch? These can slow things down. I
tend to agree that launch time can use some improvement, but you can
help by eliminating such extra things. I try to have just the main
mail browser open to the Inbox when I shut Erage down, so that is all
that has to display at launch time. It helps.

> All in all, I love Entourage for its features, its performance, I would not
> go as far to call it awful, but I will tell you, it is the worst of all the
> apps I have installed. 

Hah! Try Dreamweaver! Try Acrobat Reader! Try Omniweb with a couple of
windows open!

 I have seen these exact same problems happen on any
> of 10 other macs, from friends, family, clients etc.  Seeing as how I have
> the fastest machine of them all, I can not imagine it being my setup, plus I
> have clean installed the OS so many times I know it can not be a setup
> issue.
> 
I find it hard to believe that all your friends and family routinely
send 100-page plain text messages to one another! Seriously, I find
Entourage to be downright zippy most of the time, unless I have dozens
of apps open (which happens, and then everything crawls until I shut
most of them down or logout and log back in). I have an 800 MHz iMac
with 1 GB RAM.

One other suggestion. Try using Finder to duplicate your Identity
folder, and then delete the old identity folder and rename to new to
replace it. This defrags your files; sometimes this will help. Or,
same result: just rebuild the database. That also creates a new
contiguous file.

> I would be so happy if Entourage would get a featureless update, one that
> only addressed performance.
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