> On 6/9/06, Bryan R Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> I still have concerns about this. My wife and I both use Entourage in
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> respective "sides" (fast-user switching), and backing up still makes me
>>>>>> nervous. Although I can quit the daemons on my side, apparently I can't
>>>>>> quit them on her side automatically before the backup runs, so I have to
>>>>>> go
>>>>>> over and quit them manually.
>>>>>
>>>>> You most certainly can, you just have to authenticate as an administrator
>>>>> first.
>>>>
>>>> Pray tell, how? I know about "sudo killall", but I've gotten the
>>>> impression
>>>> that that's much rougher on the app than "tell app ... to quit" in
>>>> AppleScript. (Although no one's been able to confirm nor deny that...)
>>>
>>> (NOTE: UNTESTED... test for yourself, at your own risk, after making a
>>> backup... should be harmless, but I'm not taking any repsonsibility
>>> for your data... that said, I'd do this myself if I were trying to do
>>> the same thing)
>>>
>>> sudo kill -QUIT `ps auxwwww|fgrep 'Microsoft Office 2004'|awk '{print $2}'`
>>>
>>> should cause all related Office programs to quit
>>
>> This doesn't address my concern as stated above. I'm worried about forcibly
>> killing the Entourage process, not giving it a chance to clean up
>> gracefully. The osascript option does, but apparently it can't be used on
>> another user's processes.
>
> kill -QUIT does give it a chance to clean up gracefully.
>
> kill -9 would not
>
> That's why I suggested kill -QUIT
Please forgive my obtusity, but are you sure? I haven't been able to find
that documented anywhere...
>> Back to the problem above, I can't figure out any way to automatically quit
>> my wife's Entourage.
>
> kill -QUIT
>
>> And what about the alerts? What if an alert pops up during the back up?
>> Does that not write anything to the database? Seems like it would have to,
>> to keep track of what it had alerted you to...
>
> I wouldn't think it would write anything unless you chose SNOOZE or
> DISMISS. The next time the daemon runs it will say "Ok what alerts do
> I need to put up?"
I wouldn't think so either, but I'm not sure -- and I've had enough bad luck
over the years to want to be sure my backup's actually going to work.
I wish there were a forum where developers would answer simple questions
like this...
- B
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