CommuniGate is an excellent piece of software. With in the limits that Jon
laid out, it's a solid performer.

-keith

According to Jon on 12/13/06 12:28 PM, word on the street was:

> Hi;
>  
> CommuniGate Pro is free for five users and runs on OSX even. It work with
> Outlook, but only IMAP/POP in Entourage. You would need to use iCAL or their
> webmail. They also have a Flash based UI called pronto that is in beta and
> works on OSX if you felt webmail was not going to cut it. CommuniGate also has
> IM that works with Messenger for OSX.
>  
> Jon
>>  
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>  
>> From:  Keith  Johnson <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  
>> To: Entourage:mac Talk <mailto:[email protected]>
>>  
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:48  AM
>>  
>> Subject: Re: Need Cross-platform to-do  list: Exchange?
>>  
>> 
>> In my  experience, this is the only real value of Exchange in a small
>> company... and  it's probably not worth the cost.
>> 
>> I used to do IT work for a bank back  in Michigan. I had 1000 end users in my
>> section, the bank had about 10,000  employees total. The Public Folders
>> running on Exchange allowed calendar  'sharing.' My section spearheaded the
>> migration from cc:Mail to Exchange, so I  got to solve all the problems
>> associated with the whole thing.
>> 
>> Exchange  is a resource pig. You'll need a separate sever to run it. You'll
>> need a  Microsoft Domain structure set up to deal with authentication for
>> users. So,  if you don't already live in a Domain at work, that's two servers
>> you'll need  to get.
>> 
>> On the good news side, if all you want to do is calendar  sharing and you
>> really don't care about how beautiful your domain is, you can  set your
>> way-back machine for the year 1999, buy two really cheap Dell  desktops, add
>> lots of RAM to one of them, add extra hard drives to both of  them, install
>> an NT4.0 (SP6a) Domain with NT controlled RAID on both, make the  one with
>> base RAM the Domain Controller, put Exchange 5.5 on the 'beefy'  machine and
>> have your employees connect to that... The problem with that is  that NT is
>> no longer supported, but its system requirements are so low that it  can run
>> on a cheap desktop and... it gets kind of crazy.
>> 
>> If you want to  do Exchange 'right' you're going to have to spend a lot of
>> money. One really  beefy server on which to set up an XP or Server 2003
>> Active Domain and the  Exchange server. But licensing and activation are real
>> issue with those  products. I would recommend XP if you can get it and
>> Exchange 2000 over the  2003 issues because those implementations are
>> actually more stable and better  patched.
>> 
>> Lastly, when Exchange is working properly, it works like a  dream... when it
>> starts to get buggy, the reasons for its bugginess are  mind-bogglingly
>> legion. The people who delve into problem-solving on Exchange  Servers are
>> more like magicians and voodoo priests than technicians... and  that's been
>> true since at least Exchange 4.5 (which is when I jumped into that  mystical
>> world).
>> 
>> My question for you is this: Have you rejected  web-based calendars? There
>> are things like Yahoo! (another company I did work  for) Calendar... but they
>> have information ownership and accessibility issues,  but there are also
>> implementations that you can set up on your own web server  if you have one.
>> I've always recommended web-based calendars for small  companies due to their
>> cost-effectiveness.
>> 
>> Here's a link to one that I  tend to recommend to small companies... it's
>> simple, pretty, and  free:
>> 
>> http://www.k5n.us/webcalendar.php
>> 
>> If  your company has a website that supports SQL databases (I use MySQL but
>> POSTGRESQL works seamlessly as well), you can install this in a directory of
>> your web server and your folks can get to it from anywhere. If you want to
>> keep it *completely* private and in-house, set up a small linux box in your
>> office and put it on there. You can share the calendar in house, and it'll be
>> completely unhackable.
>> 
>> I have never played with  Sharepoint.
>> 
>> 
>> Hope that helps, and I'll be more than willing to get  into details... I
>> didn't want to overwhelm anyone with an initial  opinion.
>> 
>> Peace,
>> 
>> -keith
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> According to Pitch  on 12/13/06 8:20 AM, word on the street was:
>> 
>>  
>>> My  new company needs the ability for its 5 employees (each located in their
>>> own  home offices) to be able to share to-dos and preferably a calendar,
>>> too.  There's a couple of Mac and a couple of PC users. Everyone uses either
>>> Entourage or Outlook. While we know our perspective programs pretty well,
>>> none of us have used Exchange.
>>> 
>>> We're wondering if this is what  Exchange will do for us. Is there a
>>> tutorial somewhere that explains what  Exchange does?
>>> 
>>> Also: one of the PC partners has the ability to set  up a Sharepoint
>>> account. I'm wondering if anyone has played with this as an  option.
>>> 
>>> I'm open to anyone's ideas on how to set up some kind of  network
>>> cross-platform to-do tracking system. I'd so love to remain inside  of
>>> Entourage, so that I don't have to create two systems, but I'd be willing
>>> to do it if it made sense. We're looking at things such as BaseCamp, too.
>>> Any personal experiences in this realm will be most appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Scott
>> 
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