> Not sure what you mean... Flags are all over the app now.

I found them.  Not in the default toolbar anymore.

> They are no longer on the list‹this was to be consistent with Outlook and a
> reflection of usability testing we found as flagging is now a more prominent,
> richer feature than it was in 2004  (e.g. you can assign dates to flags).

Why flag something if you can not tell it is flagged unless it is in view?
Flags tell me there is stuff in a folder to look at and deal with.  Now I
have to open the folder, and sort by flags.  Or make a filter/rule/alert to
show me flags, and get them muddied up with other flags in other folders I
do not care about?

> You can bump down the list font... I think the 2008 rows are, on average, 1px
> taller per row than 2004.

Have you tried, 9pt to 7pt, you get that same scrunching of type and the
aliasing is so bad you can not read it.  It does not change the distance of
the folders from one another either.

> Here¹s the deal with fonts:

> You can bump down the list font... I think the 2008 rows are, on average, 1px
> taller per row than 2004.

I will have to do a side by side compare, I think that 1px is more like 4,
or so.

> Here¹s the deal with fonts:
> 
> 2004, all fonts were pixels in size.
> 2008, fonts for rendering items (e.g. Message fonts) are in points.  Fonts for
> UI display (e.g. List fonts) are in pixels.  Yeah, it¹s confusing, but it¹s
> aimed at better x-platform reliability in sizing on other e-mail clients.
> 
> For example, if you send a 9px font to Windows, that¹s awfully small on
> Windows (which typically runs at a higher dpi than the Mac OS).  But if you
> sent 9pt, it¹s pretty much the same readable size on both screens.  So what
> you¹re seeing is Entourage rendering at 9pt not 9px, which, from what you¹re
> saying, sounds like what you expected.   The UI is very confusing about this
> change, but it¹s aimed to be a much more consistent rendering experience. Of
> course, that matters less with plain-text, but again, the general aim is to
> move to a resolution independent rendering (with points) and leave behind our
> pixel-based legacy.

Ok, but I am not talking about the recipient so much.  At any rate, if I am
in plain text, that means there is no font styling applied to the source
markup.  It will be my clients job to define that via prefs.  On the
recipeient end, it is their job to use their default font.

That is what is so great about plain text, it allows me to dictate how I
want my fonts to work.

So, I have 9pt and 7pt, have you used 7pt in monaco, it is not monospaces,
and something is happening to it that is unlike any other app, it renders
terrible.

Resolution independence is all great, and I am glad to see you taking steps
to support it, but textedit, mail, safari, etc, every single OS X app out
there, whether it is using points picas or pixels, can show me something 9pt
monospaced with no aliasing going on.

As far as I know, back to the original email clients, like Pine, 80 chars
wide was what you could get, we no longer have that.

Not even in source view.

What if your text editing dev app all of a sudden took this approach, could
you work with that?

I still do not get it, why is Entourage the only OS X app that can not do
plain text, why did it get worse, before it was the fault of the legacy
WASTE engine, what is the cause of this now?

> 5) If you can diagnosis exactly where in the TCP flow things are slower than
> you¹d expect, that¹d be very helpful for us.

Certainly, in short, I can watch an outlook user pop in and check 10 email
accounts, probably in 5 seconds, open and close 10 connections.

Entourage, 3 seconds each, or more.  I will get you a dump that shows it
happening with time stamps.  They just took out network watching in
Interarchy, so I will have to dig up the old version.
 
> 6) We now use the System Alert Volume, so sounds in Entourage are consistent
> with other alert sounds across the OS.  You can modify the level in the System
> Preferences/Sound.

Yes, and that assumes that every sound is on a level playing field.  If your
alerts are too loud, and I turn them down, then the rest of my system alerts
will be too quiet.  Adium has its own volume control, QuickTime does, DVD
player does, you can not just rely on system alerts, unless there is some
standard that says every app has a max ceiling and floor set to a certain Db
level.

Look forward to your replies.
-- 
Scott


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