Dale,

They were on the edge of the tornado swath and along the roads. I recall
some where we parked to go see measure the huge hemlock.

Will F. Blozan
President, Eastern Native Tree Society
President, Appalachian Arborists, Inc.
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Subject: [ENTS] Re: Ft. Machault & Hoge Island-Allegheny River


Ahh,

Tionesta, I forgot about those.  I can't see them in my head though... can
you
describe their rough location?  Maybe that'll get the memory juices flowing.

Dale



> Dale,
>
>
>
> Cool stuff! I like the appearance of tree-of-heaven but not the
> circumstances of their presence. Remember the fire cherries at Tionesta we
> saw with Jess? They were a good bit larger.
>
>
>
> Will F. Blozan
>
> President, Eastern Native Tree Society
>
> President, Appalachian Arborists, Inc.
>
>   _____
>
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Dale Luthringer
> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 11:04 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [ENTS] Ft. Machault & Hoge Island-Allegheny River
>
>
>
> ENTS,
>
>
>
> On 9/5/08 I had a trip to Franklin, PA to research a canoe purchase for
the
> park.  After I was finished, I took some time to scout the old Ft.Machault
> site and Hoge Island.  Ft. Machault was one of the original French forts
> built on the Allegheny River drainage during the French & Indian War:
>
>
>
> http://www.brigniagara.org/Warforempire.htm
>
>
>
> "In the spring of 1753, French forces departed Montreal to establish a
chain
> of forts in the Ohio country. Originally ordered to go to the Chautauqua
> area, they received new orders changing their destination to Presqu'ile
> (modern day Erie, PA). The French force arrived at Presqu'ile on May 3,
> 1753. They began work preparing the site for the fort on a bluff
overlooking
> the peninsula and Lake Erie, near Mill Creek. The French proceeded to
build
> another fort at la riviere au le Boeufs (present day Waterford, PA). From
> this spot the French could transport their supplies by la riviere au
Boeufs
> (also known as French Creek) to Fort Machault (Venango) and the Ohio River
> where they would build Fort Duquesne (present day Pittsburgh)."
>
>
>
> "1754
> -The French reinforce their forces in the Ohio via lakes Ontario and Erie
> and build Fort Machault (present day Franklin, PA) and Fort Duquesne
> (Pittsburgh).
> -Washington Surrenders Fort Necessity."
>
>
>
>
>
> There is no visible structure of Ft. Machault today.  If one can read the
> lay of the land, and has some knowledge on how these forts were set up,
one
> kind find the site with its associated terrain.  I believe it was located
on
> French Creek, just upstream from the confluence of the Allegheny River.
The
> entire site is now a "community park".
>
>
>
> Just up-river from the confluence of French Creek and the Allegheny River
is
> Hoge Island.  I wasn't able to get on the island, but was able to observe
> some of its tree species. mainly silver maple.  Small stature silver maple
> was located on the lower terrace, with larger silver maple dominating the
> upper terrace.  From a distance, it looked like the silver maple on the
> upper terrace would not have significant heights.  Other species visible
on
> the island include sycamore and black willow with Japanese knotweed on the
> river edge.
>
>
>
> The old Ft. Machault site was a nice walk, but invasive species were
> evident: Japanese knotweed, privet, tree of heaven.  It was nice to
measure
> two new species for our Allegheny River drainage tally: boxelder, fire
> cherry.  Tree of heaven played games with me in terms of its ID.  I never
> saw them this big before (medium tree sized).  The sumaras were quite
> distinctive.  I wanted to call them black walnut something fierce, but
there
> were no nuts, and they certainly didn't have the bark:
>
>
>
> http://www.cnr.vt.edu/dendro/dendrology/syllabus/factsheet.cfm?ID=7
>
>
>
> Thankfully, I haven't seen these yet at Cook Forest.  I didn't measure
any,
> since they were heavily guarded by poison ivy on the ground and crawling
up
> their trunks, but they were decent in size, say ~14" DBH x ~60ft high.
Next
> time I'm in the area I'll try to be a little more persistent and see if I
> can get a decent height for one of these.
>
>
>
> Also thought I'd add a fire cherry to our PA list at 0.9ft CBH x 24.3ft
> high.  Looks like a new state champ. first one on the list though.
>
>
>
> Here's the day's tally:
>
>
>
> Species                        CBH                 Height   Comments
>
>
>
> Boxelder                       4.7                    20.2
>
> Butternut                       8.8(3ft up)         72.1+
>
> Fire cherry                     .9                     24.3      41
23.391N
> x 79 49.249W
>
> Honey locust                 10.4                  73
>
> Silver maple                  N/A                   87.1+
>
> Silver maple                  ~20(2x)             91.1
>
> Sycamore                     N/A                   90.9
>
> Sycamore                     N/A                   98.8
>
> Tree of heaven              ~3.1                  ~60
>
>
>
>
>
> Dale
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
>






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