Dale, For one of those Tionesta fire cherries I got 2'11" cbh by 51.4' tall.
Jess On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 2:55 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yep, > > I got you. That's by the main parking loop. Next time I'm up there I'll look > for them. > > Dale > > > >> >> Dale, >> >> They were on the edge of the tornado swath and along the roads. I recall >> some where we parked to go see measure the huge hemlock. >> >> Will F. Blozan >> President, Eastern Native Tree Society >> President, Appalachian Arborists, Inc. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 10:07 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [ENTS] Re: Ft. Machault & Hoge Island-Allegheny River >> >> >> Ahh, >> >> Tionesta, I forgot about those. I can't see them in my head though... can >> you >> describe their rough location? Maybe that'll get the memory juices flowing. >> >> Dale >> >> >> >> > Dale, >> > >> > >> > >> > Cool stuff! I like the appearance of tree-of-heaven but not the >> > circumstances of their presence. Remember the fire cherries at Tionesta we >> > saw with Jess? They were a good bit larger. >> > >> > >> > >> > Will F. Blozan >> > >> > President, Eastern Native Tree Society >> > >> > President, Appalachian Arborists, Inc. >> > >> > _____ >> > >> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> > Behalf Of Dale Luthringer >> > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 11:04 PM >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: [ENTS] Ft. Machault & Hoge Island-Allegheny River >> > >> > >> > >> > ENTS, >> > >> > >> > >> > On 9/5/08 I had a trip to Franklin, PA to research a canoe purchase for >> the >> > park. After I was finished, I took some time to scout the old Ft.Machault >> > site and Hoge Island. Ft. Machault was one of the original French forts >> > built on the Allegheny River drainage during the French & Indian War: >> > >> > >> > >> > http://www.brigniagara.org/Warforempire.htm >> > >> > >> > >> > "In the spring of 1753, French forces departed Montreal to establish a >> chain >> > of forts in the Ohio country. Originally ordered to go to the Chautauqua >> > area, they received new orders changing their destination to Presqu'ile >> > (modern day Erie, PA). The French force arrived at Presqu'ile on May 3, >> > 1753. They began work preparing the site for the fort on a bluff >> overlooking >> > the peninsula and Lake Erie, near Mill Creek. The French proceeded to >> build >> > another fort at la riviere au le Boeufs (present day Waterford, PA). From >> > this spot the French could transport their supplies by la riviere au >> Boeufs >> > (also known as French Creek) to Fort Machault (Venango) and the Ohio River >> > where they would build Fort Duquesne (present day Pittsburgh)." >> > >> > >> > >> > "1754 >> > -The French reinforce their forces in the Ohio via lakes Ontario and Erie >> > and build Fort Machault (present day Franklin, PA) and Fort Duquesne >> > (Pittsburgh). >> > -Washington Surrenders Fort Necessity." >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > There is no visible structure of Ft. Machault today. If one can read the >> > lay of the land, and has some knowledge on how these forts were set up, >> one >> > kind find the site with its associated terrain. I believe it was located >> on >> > French Creek, just upstream from the confluence of the Allegheny River. >> The >> > entire site is now a "community park". >> > >> > >> > >> > Just up-river from the confluence of French Creek and the Allegheny River >> is >> > Hoge Island. I wasn't able to get on the island, but was able to observe >> > some of its tree species. mainly silver maple. Small stature silver maple >> > was located on the lower terrace, with larger silver maple dominating the >> > upper terrace. From a distance, it looked like the silver maple on the >> > upper terrace would not have significant heights. Other species visible >> on >> > the island include sycamore and black willow with Japanese knotweed on the >> > river edge. >> > >> > >> > >> > The old Ft. Machault site was a nice walk, but invasive species were >> > evident: Japanese knotweed, privet, tree of heaven. It was nice to >> measure >> > two new species for our Allegheny River drainage tally: boxelder, fire >> > cherry. Tree of heaven played games with me in terms of its ID. I never >> > saw them this big before (medium tree sized). The sumaras were quite >> > distinctive. I wanted to call them black walnut something fierce, but >> there >> > were no nuts, and they certainly didn't have the bark: >> > >> > >> > >> > http://www.cnr.vt.edu/dendro/dendrology/syllabus/factsheet.cfm?ID=7 >> > >> > >> > >> > Thankfully, I haven't seen these yet at Cook Forest. I didn't measure >> any, >> > since they were heavily guarded by poison ivy on the ground and crawling >> up >> > their trunks, but they were decent in size, say ~14" DBH x ~60ft high. >> Next >> > time I'm in the area I'll try to be a little more persistent and see if I >> > can get a decent height for one of these. >> > >> > >> > >> > Also thought I'd add a fire cherry to our PA list at 0.9ft CBH x 24.3ft >> > high. Looks like a new state champ. first one on the list though. >> > >> > >> > >> > Here's the day's tally: >> > >> > >> > >> > Species CBH Height Comments >> > >> > >> > >> > Boxelder 4.7 20.2 >> > >> > Butternut 8.8(3ft up) 72.1+ >> > >> > Fire cherry .9 24.3 41 >> 23.391N >> > x 79 49.249W >> > >> > Honey locust 10.4 73 >> > >> > Silver maple N/A 87.1+ >> > >> > Silver maple ~20(2x) 91.1 >> > >> > Sycamore N/A 90.9 >> > >> > Sycamore N/A 98.8 >> > >> > Tree of heaven ~3.1 ~60 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Dale >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org You are subscribed to the Google Groups "ENTSTrees" group. 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