Gary,

Two guys are sitting at bar.  One calls the other an alcoholic.  The second guy 
says "I'm not an alcoholic, I'm  a drunk."  The first guy asks. "Well, What's 
the difference?"  The second guy says, "Us drunks don't have to attend all 
those dang old meetings!"  That is about how I would feel about a west coast 
get together,  I want to go go but don't want to attend all those dang old 
meetings.

Ed

"Two roads diverged in a yellow wood, And sorry I could not travel both. "
Robert Frost (1874-1963). Mountain Interval. 1920. 
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