Jenny, Yes I see quite a few in that size range. I am just curious about how large they can grow, and under what circumstances they do grow larger. Sumac seems to grow bigger when the competition is kept down and the various clonal stems are cut back. A decent sized one also is along the banks of the Clarion River her in PA bounded by a road on one side - no competition, and the river on the other. Maybe flooding is keeping back the competition. The biggest seem to be in peoples yards or fields.
Ed . ----- Original Message ----- From: "JennyNYC" <[email protected]> To: "ENTSTrees" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:46 PM Subject: [ENTS] Re: Devil's Walking Stick - Arilia spinosa Ed, This is interesting and I'm sorry to say I don't know the answers to these questions. But there must be data available for this. They've been at it for quite a few years, so the ones I've been pulling lately are no more than 8-10 ft. and skinny. I'm curious though. And now I feel bad for being so barbaric. I'll investigate. Here are my pix from a month or so ago. http://picasaweb.google.com/JennifDudley/Devil?authkey=Gv1sRgCIXOu47xtJWJbw&feat=directlink Jenny On Mar 19, 10:46 am, "Edward Frank" <[email protected]> wrote: > Jenny, > > As uncomfortable as grabbing it may be for the hiker, Arilia spinosa is a > native tree across much of eastern United States. It isn't clear if it > actually is native to NYC, or if that is just beyond its native range. It > was used in Victorian gardens as an ornamental, and the aromatic roots and > fruit were used by settlers as home remedies...mainly for toothache. I am > curious how large of trees they are removing? It certainly is not a highly > thought of tree in any case. The tallest specimen in our database is 36 > feet, and the fattest is 53.4 inches GBH. That is a pretty fat one, but I > am sure there are many taller examples out there, we just don't measure > that many of them. The oldest one we have found was one Jess Riddle noted > cut along a trail at just 32 years old. Some of these pioneer species seem > to just die before growing very old. I would be interested in ring counts > from any larger or old specimens removed as part of the project. I > personally am curious about many of these unwanted and oft overlooked > species. > > Ed > . > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JennyNYC" <[email protected]> > To: "ENTSTrees" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:17 AM > Subject: [ENTS] Re: Hemlocks - HWA? > > The DEVIL is Aralia spinosa - Devil's Walking Stick. I joke a lot that > we are removing the Devil and the Tree of Heaven (Ailanthus) from the > Forest. Nobody really laughs though...I can't figure out if they don't > get it or the joke is just getting really really old or it just wasn't > that funny in the first place! --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
