Ed, Jenny, and James,

The timing of this thread couldn't be any better.  I had my first encounter
with devils-walkingstick yesterday.  I was measuring trees in a steep ravine
along the Schuylkill River in SE Pa.  I was halfway up the ravines slope
when I stopped to measure a tall beech and hemlock.  From there I could see
the devils walkingstick under the canopy of the hemlocks along the small
stream.  From a distance they looked a little like young ailanthus, I wasn't
sure what they were.  As I made my way down the slope to measure the
circumference of the beech and hemlock I made the mistake of grabbing onto
the trunk of the devils walkingstick.  A closer look revealed the tiny
spines that covered it's trunk.  I won't be doing that again!  I would guess
that most of them are between 20'-30'.  I'll be returning to the ravine to
measure a few other trees and I'll be sure to measure the devils
walkingstick.  Ed, I could try to get a ring count on some of the dead ones
that have fallen.

George       

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of James Parton
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:33 PM
To: ENTSTrees
Subject: [ENTS] Re: Devil's Walking Stick - Arilia spinosa


Ed & Jenny,

I can't ever remember finding Devils Walking Stick here in the
mountains of North Carolina. If anyone would know it would be Will
Blozan. I find the plant uniquely beautiful. Much like I do Hawthorn.

James Parton

On Mar 19, 10:46 am, "Edward Frank" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Jenny,
>
> As uncomfortable as grabbing it may be for the hiker, Arilia spinosa is a
native tree across much of eastern United States.  It isn't clear if it
actually is native to NYC, or if that is just beyond its native range.  It
was used in Victorian gardens as an ornamental, and the aromatic roots and
fruit were used by settlers as home remedies...mainly for toothache.  I am
curious how large of trees they are removing?  It certainly is not a highly
thought of tree in any case.  The tallest specimen in our database is 36
feet, and the fattest is 53.4 inches GBH.  That is a pretty fat one, but I
am sure there are many taller examples out there, we just don't measure that
many of them.  The oldest one we have found was one Jess Riddle noted cut
along a trail at just 32 years old.  Some of these pioneer species seem to
just die before growing very old.  I would be interested in ring counts from
any larger or old specimens removed as part of the project.  I personally am
curious about many of these unwanted and oft overlooked species.  
>
> Ed
> .
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JennyNYC" <[email protected]>
> To: "ENTSTrees" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:17 AM
> Subject: [ENTS] Re: Hemlocks - HWA?
>
> The DEVIL is Aralia spinosa - Devil's Walking Stick. I joke a lot that
> we are removing the Devil and the Tree of Heaven (Ailanthus) from the
> Forest. Nobody really laughs though...I can't figure out if they don't
> get it or the joke is just getting really really old or it just wasn't
> that funny in the first place!


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