Ed, Well we discussed this a while back, and I just thought why not include them to. There all so awesome, I had to stop somewhere and 20 seemed like a good point. I just broke my own rule, I kinda just felt like you the 19' footers should get some recognition to, so why not. Its funny, after seeing so many larger Live Oaks these begin to seem small. But in reality they are huge to, you just get used to seeing them, know what I mean. BTW, some very interesting discussions on the list this evening, I will comment on them later. Larry
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