John, 



    I remember that. However, there is something to be said for observation at 
a distance. 



Bob 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Knuerr" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:04:30 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [ENTS] RE: Doodoo 




That reminds me of the time Bob and I were out at Mohawk Trail State Forest 
with Lynn Rogers – well known bear expert. Someone in the group he was leading 
asked if that was bear dropping on the ground. Lynn went over, picked it up, 
started breaking it apart, smelling it and then talking about all the 
information you can get about the bear from the dung. He also invited group 
members to smell the dung which had a wonderful rich earthy smell. 



John 






From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of [email protected] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 7:58 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: [ENTS] Re: What should a forest ecology class include?! 




Jenny, 



    Hang in there lady. Your ENTS family is behind you. Ahh, maybe you should 
show them what dirty really is. Spread some bird doodoo around! Mix up the 
species doodoo and ask everyone to identify each species type. We'll then 
compute a doodoo index for each person. Who the heck are those people? 



Bob 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JennyNYC" <[email protected]> 
To: "ENTSTrees" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 6:49:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [ENTS] What should a forest ecology class include?! 


ENTS, 

Okay, I'm really irritated after 3 days of talking 90% of the time 
about soil and drainage in this Forest Ecology workshop. I KNOW this 
is important, but what about everything else??? 

We don't don't about mice or voles or birds or deer or moose, or 
insects, or even the bacteria or micro organisms that break down the 
organic matter. Very superficial coverage of species interaction. 
There was an incomprehensible hour talking about calculating biomass 
with a prism. And THEN, to top it all off, one guy in the class said 
"gross! that's so dirty!" when I picked up a gull feather, and someone 
else chimed in "birds are so dirty". I told them they had no idea what 
they were talking about. 

And there are 2 more days....I have to go eat dinner with these people 
now. AAAAH! 

Jenny 








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