Beth,
There are the 3 possibilities within the area: definitely black, definitely scarlet, and hybrids. Lots of fun. More to come. I'm going to get some pin oak leaves next and place them next to scarlet oak. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth Koebel" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:53:36 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [ENTS] Re: Oak bark characteristics Bob and ENTS, I think that it is from a black oak or possibly hybrid between the black and the scarlet. Beth Sent from my iPhone On Nov 11, 2009, at 5:41, Bob < [email protected] > wrote: Tim and Steve Bottom two are definitely scarlet. Upper two onleft are definitely black. Rightmost on top is up for grabs. Lee what do you think? Vic Shelburne? Bob Sent from my iPhone On Nov 10, 2009, at 9:47 PM, Timothy Zelazo < [email protected] > wrote: Since the Scarlet oak leaves tend to close, I'm going with the two on the bottom and the one at the top right are Scarlet. The other two are Black. On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Steve Galehouse < [email protected] > wrote: Bob- In that there are only 5 leaves in the photo, I know it's a trick question! But my guess is the top three are Black, the bottom two Scarlet. But if they are all from this season, and in the state of color they are, then all could be Black(Scarlet still looks, well, scarlet, even after leaf drop). If I had gathered these from my local woods, I would say the top three are Black, the bottom two Pin. But I would still have to look at the acorns under the trees to feel confident of the ID, and then observe the bark. Who's on first? ;). Steve On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:12 PM, < [email protected] > wrote: Steve, Excellent. No ruckus at all. This is a very, very useful direction to take. There's no limit to what we can accomplish with comparative images. The attached images show 3 black and 3 scarlet oak leaves. Or is it 2 black and 4 scarlet oak leaves? Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Galehouse" < [email protected] > To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 7:43:24 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [ENTS] Re: Oak bark characteristics Tim, Bob, ENTS- I didn't mean to cause a ruckus when I commented that the Black Oak pic looked like Tupelo to me, but Chestnut Oak and Tupelo do resemble each other as far as bark characteristics, and are easily confused. I've attached a few bark pics of Oaks and Tupelos from locals woods. In my area the Red Oaks(Red, Black, Pin, Scarlet) all occur in the same woods and seem to display an intergrading continuum of characteristics--the photos are of the most typical for the species. Steve On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Timothy Zelazo < [email protected] > wrote: Bob: After my meeting in Northampton today, I went back to Mt. Tom to resolve the confusion I started. The tree next to the parking lot is the only tupelo tree in the area that we walked on Sunday. I then went back to the Chestnut oak ( the one I referred to as a Black oak) and found the leaves and the fruit so I could correct the confusion I created. The area is a great spot for doing oak tree identification because there are Red, White, Black, and Chestnut oak all growing together in one happy community. Tim --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
