Lee,
I was having another senior moment as to which leaves you were referring to. Maybe I can fine the tree and photograph some fat leaves on the ground. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Frelich" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 8:58:48 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [ENTS] Re: Oak bark characteristics Bob: I think the one on the upper right is scarlet oak. The pattern with which side veins intersect the main vein is like scarlet oak. Its probably from a shaded portion of the canopy whereas the others are from the top of the canopy. You didn't show any of those black oaks with the fat leaves with minimal indentation that I saw when I was there in early October. I have not seen those in the Midwest- must be a New England thing. Lee Bob wrote: > Tim and Steve > > Bottom two are definitely scarlet. Upper two onleft are definitely > black. Rightmost on top is up for grabs. Lee what do you think? Vic > Shelburne? > > Bob > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 10, 2009, at 9:47 PM, Timothy Zelazo <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> Since the Scarlet oak leaves tend to close, I'm going with the two on >> the bottom and the one at the top right are Scarlet. The other two >> are Black. >> >> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Steve Galehouse >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Bob- >> >> In that there are only 5 leaves in the photo, I know it's a trick >> question! But my guess is the top three are Black, the bottom two >> Scarlet. But if they are all from this season, and in the state >> of color they are, then all could be Black(Scarlet still looks, >> well, scarlet, even after leaf drop). If I had gathered these >> from my local woods, I would say the top three are Black, the >> bottom two Pin. But I would still have to look at the acorns >> under the trees to feel confident of the ID, and then observe the >> bark. >> Who's on first? ;). >> >> Steve >> >> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:12 PM, <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Steve, >> >> Excellent. No ruckus at all. This is a very, very useful >> direction to take. There's no limit to what we can accomplish >> with comparative images. The attached images show 3 black and >> 3 scarlet oak leaves. Or is it 2 black and 4 scarlet oak leaves? >> >> Bob >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Steve Galehouse" <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> To: [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 7:43:24 PM GMT -05:00 >> US/Canada Eastern >> Subject: [ENTS] Re: Oak bark characteristics >> >> Tim, Bob, ENTS- >> >> I didn't mean to cause a ruckus when I commented that the >> Black Oak pic looked like Tupelo to me, but Chestnut Oak and >> Tupelo do resemble each other as far as bark characteristics, >> and are easily confused. I've attached a few bark pics of >> Oaks and Tupelos from locals woods. In my area the Red >> Oaks(Red, Black, Pin, Scarlet) all occur in the same woods >> and seem to display an intergrading continuum of >> characteristics--the photos are of the most typical for the >> species. >> >> Steve >> >> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Timothy Zelazo >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Bob: >> >> After my meeting in Northampton today, I went back to Mt. >> Tom to resolve the confusion I started. The tree next to >> the parking lot is the only tupelo tree in the area that >> we walked on Sunday. I then went back to the Chestnut >> oak ( the one I referred to as a Black oak) and found the >> leaves and the fruit so I could correct the confusion I >> created. The area is a great spot for doing oak tree >> identification because there are Red, White, Black, and >> Chestnut oak all growing together in one happy community. >> >> Tim >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
