Bob, You missed the 120' cherry in the measurements. The cherry stand is quite dense, and I could not get a clear shot on other 110'+ cherries.
Black cherry's temperature optimum seems to extend to slightly colder temperatures than many other tall eastern hardwoods. In the southern Appalachians, large cherries commonly grow around 4000' elevation while the largest individuals of other cove species, like tuliptree and basswood, are usually below 3500'. The occasional cherry dominated stands also tend to be upslope of tuliptree dominated stands. Cherries approaching their maximum height farther north reinforces that pattern. I see white ash and to some extent yellow buckeye fitting that same climate pattern. Of course, all of those species might grow best in a slightly warmer climate, but tuliptree tends to out-compete them on the warmer sites. Jess On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 8:35 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Jess, > Good to see data from upstate NY and a Rucker Index no less. The 113 and > 115-ft black cherries are impressive. > I am always surprised to see how well black cherry does in the canopy. I > don't know why. I suppose I'm inclined to think of the cherry as a junior > member of the forest community - the near plantations of the Allegheny NF > not withstanding. Then there are the robust black cherries of Cook Forest. > Guess I've got to rethink my perceptions. > The young profiles of the trees in your images remind me of how much if our > tall trees fit the young, fast growth profile. With warmer temperatures and > plenty of CO2, if it stays wet, as it has been in NY this year, we should > see the results reflected in growth rates. Lee's point about tree growth > being faster now, and presumably trees growing taller starts to be a worthy > research topic for us. > Bob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jess Riddle" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 9:09:27 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: [ENTS] Beaver Lake Nature Center, NY > > Ents, > > Beaver Lake Nature Center encompasses a square mile in the Lake > Ontario lake plain, with the namesake glacial lake occupying one third > of that area. Around the perimeter of the lake, wetlands vary from > small areas of open marsh to a pure red maple swamp with a thick > herbaceous layer of royal fern. Away from the lake, the only wetland > is a small fen dominated by hemlock, northern white cedar, and yellow > birch. The patchwork of different communities on the surrounding, > gently sloped uplands largely reflects a range of management objects > and includes open fields, conifer plantations, and hardwood forests of > varied ages. In the youngest forests, American elm grows scattered > amongst locally abundant red maple, sugar maple, white ash, black > locust, and aspens. In more mature forest, likely 70 to 100 years, > sugar maple and black cherry are probably the most abundant species, > but hemlock dominates some north facing slopes. Northern red oak, red > maple, beech, tuliptree, and white ash are also common in those > stands. The oldest forest occurs adjacent to the lake's eastern > shore, and grades from beech to sugar maple dominance, often with a > hemlock midstory. > > Species Dbh (cm) Height > Ash, White 58.0 119.9' > Basswood, American 64.5 90.7' (I think I missed the top) > Basswood, American 47.2 102.7' > Beech 65.3 101.8' > Black gum 51.0 88.4' > Cherry, Black 160 77.2' > Cherry, Black 50.9 113.1' > Cherry, Black 69.1 115.2' > Cherry, Black 45.7 120.8' > Cottonwood 85.9 109.2' > Cottonwood 73.9 110.7' > Maple, Red 52.9 104.2' > Maple, Sugar 62.4 110.4' > Maple, Sugar 91.7 111.8' > Oak, Northern Red 102.9 103.3' > Pine, Eastern White 108.2' > Tuliptree 90.1 121.5' > > Rucker Index 110.5' > > In addition to the trees listed above, red maple, sugar maple, white > oak, and beech reach 10' cbh, and Norway spruce and European larch > exceed 100'. The large cherry is not as impressive as the dimension > suggest. The tree appears to have grown along an old fence row, and > one of the two forks has fallen off. The other cherries grow in a > tight stand where dozens of cherries are packed on to a half acre of > gentle slope, and several of the other measured trees grow in an > adjacent flat. White pine is native to the site, but the 108' tree > may have been planted. > > Jess > > -- > Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org > Send email to [email protected] > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en > To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] > > -- > Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org > Send email to [email protected] > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en > To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] -- Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected]
