Bob and Jess,

Not disagreeing, but higher elevations in a more southerly location is not the 
same with lower elevation in a more northerly setting in terms of length of 
daylight, angle of incidence, and likely not even in growing season.  They may 
share cooler temperatures on average, but parameters of daylight is different, 
ad the Smokies and mountains in Georgia may also incorporate a higher amount of 
rainfall that many areas farther north.

Ed


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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bob 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 4:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [ENTS] Beaver Lake Nature Center, NY


  Jess

      Neat! Interesting species profiles. Bigtooth Aspen appears to be  
  another that reaches a height maximum north of the geographical center  
  of it's range within the lower 48. Do you agree?

  Bob



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  On Nov 28, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Jess Riddle <[email protected]> wrote:

  > Bob,
  >
  > You missed the 120' cherry in the measurements.  The cherry stand is
  > quite dense, and I could not get a clear shot on other 110'+ cherries.
  >
  > Black cherry's temperature optimum seems to extend to slightly colder
  > temperatures than many other tall eastern hardwoods.  In the southern
  > Appalachians, large cherries commonly grow around 4000' elevation
  > while the largest individuals of other cove species, like tuliptree
  > and basswood, are usually below 3500'.  The occasional cherry
  > dominated stands also tend to be upslope of tuliptree dominated
  > stands.  Cherries approaching their maximum height farther north
  > reinforces that pattern.  I see white ash and to some extent yellow
  > buckeye fitting that same climate pattern.  Of course, all of those
  > species might grow best in a slightly warmer climate, but tuliptree
  > tends to out-compete them on the warmer sites.
  >
  > Jess
  >
  >

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