Re: [ENTS] Observing nature...Carolyn, As I said the generated list is a starting point for a good list. The question of shrub versus tree isn't a problem. Most that can be considered both a tree and a shrub are cross-listed. You can choose to display both all the trees, and all of the shrubs on the list, then delete the inappropriate ones. The hawthorns are trickier, but the USDA lists many varieties in its tables and they do appear on the lists. You can chose to display alternate names and unaccepted scientific names (according to their listings) to go with the ones on the list I generated. So older names for things can be set to still show up. The generated lists most certainly need to be edited and things removed and others perhaps added - but a quick and reasonable good list can be generated from the site.
Ed Check out my new Blog: http://nature-web-network.blogspot.com/ (and click on some of the ads) ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn Summers To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [ENTS] Observing nature... Thanks, Ed. We already have a list for NY in book form, recently updated by Donald Leopold of Syracuse U. I was asking with regard to other states, to see if this is the sort of information which is already pretty widespread or if it would have to be created. Also, it is not as simple a query as one might think, since there can be confusion on whether some very large shrubs should actually be considered trees. And then there are the hawthorns......... So creating the definitive list is tricky, but possibly a worthwhile effort to get people out in the woods looking to identify the trees that their birds are sitting in. -- Carolyn Summers 63 Ferndale Drive Hastings-on-Hudson, NY 10706 914-478-5712 -- Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected]
