Gaines, 

There are a number of us who also love Norway spruce and routinely measure 
them. It is a great species - unlike Norway maple. 


Bob 

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From: "spruce" <[email protected]> 
To: "ENTSTrees" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2010 4:14:05 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [ENTS] Honorary native tree--a possibility?: Norway spruce 

Tree lovers: 

Forgive me if I am treading on forbidden territory, but I am a 
lover of Norway spruce. These trees can grow very tall. In Europe 
they are reported to grow as much as 215 feet. Dr. John Genys, 
Professor Emeritus, U of MD, with whom whom I have had some good 
discussions about Norway spruce, is a native of Lithuania, and has had 
a long standing interest in Norway spruce. He sees no reason why they 
should not grow as tall here, in favorable spots and with the right 
genetic strain, as in Europe. 

Norway spruce is naturalized in a wide area of the northeast and 
northern midwest. It reproduces itself, but not in a way as to be a 
problematic invasive exotic. 

Could there be any interest in including this species in some way 
in the ENTS measurement/recording activities? 

I know of two areas where some very tall Norway spruce trees grow-- 
as a rough estimate, maybe up to 140 feet, or a bit more in one case. 
Of course these trees were not much planted until the CCC plantings in 
the '30s, although one stand, The "Rothkugel," near Bartow in WV, was 
planted in 1907. A few were planted during colonial times, but I don't 
know of any surviving from that time. The oldest I know of where 
probably planted around 1835. If anyone knows of any older plantings I 
would be interested. Anyway, since there are few if any plantings 
much older than 100 years, the full potential of these trees is not 
yet realized on this side of the Atlantic. They are, contrary to some 
reports, long lived, pretty much matching the longevity of white pine. 

--Gaines McMartin 

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