Gaines, Will,

The last time I measured the Anders Run Norway spruce it was at 10.5ft CBH x
135.2ft high on 10/18/06.  A Norway in the 140ft class would be an
incredible find for the Eastern U.S.

Dale

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Will Blozan <[email protected]>wrote:

> Gaines,
>
> I LOVE Norway spruce and would be very, very interested in seeing the
> groves
> you mentioned. Currently, ENTS and WNTS seekers have found no individuals
> over 140' in NA and just a scattering over 130'. The most productive grove
> I
> know of here in NC (with 2 trees at or over 130') was recently almost
> entirely logged. One tree survives (if it made it through the recent winter
> storms) of the 130 class.
>
> Here is a post on the oldest one I know of in NC:
>
>
> http://www.nativetreesociety.org/fieldtrips/north_carolina/camcore/westfeldt
> _mansion.htm
>
> Also, I have seen the Anders Run tree and believe it to be the largest
> specimen ENTS has documented. It is currently the height record for NA.
>
> Will F. Blozan
> President, Eastern Native Tree Society
> President, Appalachian Arborists, Inc.
>
> "No sympathy for apathy"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of spruce
> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:14 PM
> To: ENTSTrees
> Subject: [ENTS] Honorary native tree--a possibility?: Norway spruce
>
>  Tree lovers:
>
>   Forgive me if I am treading on forbidden territory, but I am a
> lover of Norway spruce.  These trees can grow very tall.  In Europe
> they are reported to grow as much as 215 feet.  Dr. John Genys,
> Professor Emeritus, U of MD, with whom whom I have had some good
> discussions about Norway spruce, is a native of Lithuania, and has had
> a long standing interest in Norway spruce.  He sees no reason why they
> should not grow as tall here, in favorable spots and with the right
> genetic strain, as in Europe.
>
>   Norway spruce is naturalized in a wide area of the northeast and
> northern midwest.  It reproduces itself, but not in a way as to be a
> problematic invasive exotic.
>
>   Could there be any interest in including this species in some way
> in the ENTS measurement/recording activities?
>
>   I know of two areas where some very tall Norway spruce trees grow--
> as a rough estimate, maybe up to 140 feet, or a bit more in one case.
> Of course these trees were not much planted until the CCC plantings in
> the '30s, although one stand, The "Rothkugel," near Bartow in WV, was
> planted in 1907. A few were planted during colonial times, but I don't
> know of any surviving from that time.  The oldest I know of where
> probably planted around 1835. If anyone knows of any older plantings I
> would be interested.  Anyway, since there are few if any plantings
> much older than 100 years, the full potential of these trees is not
> yet realized on this side of the Atlantic.  They are, contrary to some
> reports, long lived, pretty much matching the longevity of white pine.
>
>   --Gaines McMartin
>
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