Carolyn, all,
I use a “fanny pack” turned to the front that has open pockets on the sides for water bottles. I put the laser in one pocket and my GPS sin the other. I can only tolerate one thing around my neck; a clinometer. This I tuck into my shirt or jacket to keep it from flailing about and keep it warm. The lasers are not heavy. Will F. Blozan President, Eastern Native Tree Society President, Appalachian Arborists, Inc. "No sympathy for apathy" _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carolyn Summers Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 12:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENTS] Suunto vs. iPhone Thanks, Bob, Bart, Ed and Will, for all these leads. I guess I know what to ask for when my birthday rolls around. Are they heavy, BTW? Does one carry them on a neck strap like a camera? -- Carolyn Summers 63 Ferndale Drive Hastings-on-Hudson, NY 10706 914-478-5712 _____ From: Will Blozan <[email protected]> Organization: Eastern Native Tree Society Reply-To: <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 22:22:51 -0500 To: <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [ENTS] Suunto vs. iPhone Carolyn, Bob, Amazon has them for $275: http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-Forestry-550-Hypsometer-Rangefinder/dp/B001J0QJ2 S And Buy.com for $273: http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=210913827 <http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=210913827&listingid=49305260> &listingid=49305260 <http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=210913827&listingid=49305260> <http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=210913827&listingid=49305260> Will F. Blozan President, Eastern Native Tree Society President, Appalachian Arborists, Inc. "No sympathy for apathy" _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] <mailto:[email protected]%5d> On Behalf Of Carolyn Summers Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 10:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENTS] Suunto vs. iPhone It’s ok, fortunately I was already sitting down. -- Carolyn Summers 63 Ferndale Drive Hastings-on-Hudson, NY 10706 914-478-5712 _____ From: <[email protected]> Reply-To: <[email protected]> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 03:12:57 +0000 (UTC) To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ENTS] Suunto vs. iPhone Carolyn, It is close to $500.00. Don't faint. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Summers" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2010 9:07:38 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [ENTS] Suunto vs. iPhone Ok, that’s what I need. I’m afraid to ask – but – here goes – what’s the price tag? -- Carolyn Summers 63 Ferndale Drive Hastings-on-Hudson, NY 10706 914-478-5712 _____ From: <[email protected]> Reply-To: <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 20:19:14 +0000 (UTC) To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ENTS] Suunto vs. iPhone Carolyn, The Nikon Forestry 550 does it all. It is also fairly pricey. You select the height mode, shoot the crown, shoot the base, and read the calculated height from the LED. No math. No fuss. No bother. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Summers" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2010 2:35:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [ENTS] Suunto vs. iPhone Are there any tree-height measuring devices that do the math for you? I never took trig. -- Carolyn Summers 63 Ferndale Drive Hastings-on-Hudson, NY 10706 914-478-5712 > From: Beth <[email protected]> > Reply-To: <[email protected]> > Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:57:09 -0800 (PST) > To: ENTSTrees <[email protected]> > Subject: [ENTS] Suunto vs. iPhone > > A Small Comparison between Suunto and iPhone Clinometers > > Since some of us now have iPhones and have downloaded the > Clinometer application I thought that someone needs to compare the > iPhone to the Suunto clinometer. Today I took 14 measurements each > while sitting on my couch to a ceiling heating/AC vent. I then > measured my eye height, the ceiling height, and the distance from my > eyes to the tape measure hanging from the vent as a plumb bob. These > measurements were: ceiling height = 96², height of the eyes = 38², and > distance to the vent plum bob = 219². I used the measurements to > calculate the angle I was trying to measure with the Suunto and > iPhone. Before taking my measurements I calibrated my iPhone > clinometer according to the instructions. I also had the following > settings: Fast approximation-on, Beep on lock-on, wait for lock > accuracy of + 0.1o- all the way to the left (+ 0.1o), disable auto- > lock-off, and 3D glass effect-on. > > The first thing that I do in order to calculate the angle A was to > calculate the distance from my eye to the ceiling; 96²-38²= 58². > > Since Tan A = a/b, we can rearrange the equation to find A by dividing > both sides by Tan. Since 1/Tan =Arc Tan the equation is A = (a/b) Arc > Tan. Filling in this equation with the data we get A = (58/219) Arc > Tan or A = 14.8336707057. Taking signifiginte numbers in mind I am > going to say the angle is 14.8o. (Note: I calculated this after > gathering the data as not to influence the clinometer data) > > Now for the clinometer data: > Suunto iPhone Suunto iPhone > 15.5 15.2 14.5 15.4 > 15.0 14.9 15.0 15.2 > 15.0 15.1 14.5 15.2 > 15.0 14.1 14.5 15.1 > 15.0 15.0 14.5 15.7 > 15.0 15.2 15.0 15.5 > 14.5 15.1 14.5 15.2 > The means were 14.8 and 15.1 for the Suunto and iPhone respectively > with standard deviation of 0.31 and 0.35. > > The one thing I noticed in my raw data is with the Suunto my highest > and lowest angles were 15.5 and 14.5 whereas with the iPhone they were > 15.7 and 14.1. I can think of at least two reasons why. 1) I have > more experience with the Suunto than I have with the iPhone and 2) the > Suunto has a line to help repeatly ³hit² the same spot whereas the > iPhone you are just looking down one side of the phone. > > I also noticed after calculating the angle (14.8) the Suunto average > was closer than the iPhone¹s (14.8 vs. 15.1). Now is 0.3o difference > significant? Bob has more experience with the Suunto than I do and he > has stated in the past that can read it to the nearest 1Ž4 o. I myself > can only read it to the nearest 1Ž2o. Given this I believe that a > difference of 0.3o is. > > How can the iPhone be improved? If one would add a sighting device on > to the iPhone this could help ³hit² the same spot repeatly. Obviously > this can not be same one that is used in the Suunto¹s, looking through > it with an optical illusion. Maybe a tiny gun sighting built into the > volume and/or ringer buttons on the left side. I think someone > thought of this earlier. With the sight and practice I believe one > could the angle down to the nearest tenth of a degree. With the > Suunto one can only really estimate anything less than 1 degree. > Beth > > -- > Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org > Send email to [email protected] > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en > To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] -- Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] -- Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] -- Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] -- Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] -- Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] -- Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] -- Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] -- Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected]
