I think maybe that’s the way to go – wear it and make sure it’s attached to
me some how so that I can’t lose it. I’ve been eyeing those birding vests,
which is what I think you’re talking about.
--
Carolyn Summers
63 Ferndale Drive
Hastings-on-Hudson, NY 10706
914-478-5712
From: DON BERTOLETTE <[email protected]>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 23:31:42 +0000
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [ENTS] Suunto vs. iPhone
Ed/Carolyn-
Foresters over the years gravitated to a cruisers vest (lots of pockets) for
exactly these kinds of devices...check out Forestry Suppliers or Ben Meadows
for a sparkling array...
-Don
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ENTS] Suunto vs. iPhone
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 17:41:49 -0500
Carolyn,
No, you need to take everything with you - Measurement Gear, Camera, Video,
GPS, Binoculars, reticule, and hang it all from your neck!!!
(Actually I think it is important to not only measure but photograph, and
locate these trees. - so don't leave the camera behind.)
I might suggest one solution. Go to Goodwill and get a big purse with lots
of different closable compartments. The more pockets the better. Then get
a fat strap for it - such as off a laptop case or something similar. It can
then be used to organize and carry your gear in the filed. Generally I wear
my Suunto, rangefinder, and clinometer on straps around my neck and stick
the rest in bag of some sort.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Carolyn Summers <mailto:[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 5:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [ENTS] Suunto vs. iPhone
>
> Bummer. But I’m glad the instrument itself is lightweight. That helps a lot.
> I don’t want to have to leave my camera behind.
> --
> Carolyn Summers
> 63 Ferndale Drive
> Hastings-on-Hudson, NY 10706
> 914-478-5712
>
>
>
>
> From: <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: <[email protected]>
> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 21:46:23 +0000 (UTC)
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [ENTS] Suunto vs. iPhone
>
> Carolyn,
>
> They Forestry 550 is light. I carry mine on my belt. It has a neck strap too.
> As a negative, the instrument fits too tightly in its case. I've invented some
> new four-letter words to describe the design of the case and the lineage of
> its designers.
>
> Bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carolyn Summers" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Monday, January 4, 2010 12:40:16 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [ENTS] Suunto vs. iPhone
>
> Thanks, Bob, Bart, Ed and Will, for all these leads. I guess I know what to
> ask for when my birthday rolls around. Are they heavy, BTW? Does one carry
> them on a neck strap like a camera?
> --
> Carolyn Summers
> 63 Ferndale Drive
> Hastings-on-Hudson, NY 10706
> 914-478-5712
>
>
>
>
> From: Will Blozan <[email protected]>
> Organization: Eastern Native Tree Society
> Reply-To: <[email protected]>
> Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 22:22:51 -0500
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: [ENTS] Suunto vs. iPhone
>
> Carolyn, Bob,
>
> Amazon has them for $275:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-Forestry-550-Hypsometer-Rangefinder/dp/B001J0QJ2S
>
> And Buy.com for $273:
>
> http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=210913827&listingid=49305260
> <http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=210913827&listingid=49305260>
> <http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=210913827&listingid=49305260>
> <http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=210913827&listingid=49305260>
>
>
> Will F. Blozan
> President, Eastern Native Tree Society
> President, Appalachian Arborists, Inc.
>
> "No sympathy for apathy"
>
>
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of Carolyn Summers
> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 10:16 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [ENTS] Suunto vs. iPhone
>
> It’s ok, fortunately I was already sitting down.
> --
> Carolyn Summers
> 63 Ferndale Drive
> Hastings-on-Hudson, NY 10706
> 914-478-5712
>
>
>
> From: <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: <[email protected]>
> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 03:12:57 +0000 (UTC)
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [ENTS] Suunto vs. iPhone
>
> Carolyn,
>
> It is close to $500.00. Don't faint.
>
> Bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carolyn Summers" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2010 9:07:38 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [ENTS] Suunto vs. iPhone
>
> Ok, that’s what I need. I’m afraid to ask – but – here goes – what’s the
> price tag?
> --
> Carolyn Summers
> 63 Ferndale Drive
> Hastings-on-Hudson, NY 10706
> 914-478-5712
>
>
>
> From: <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: <[email protected]>
> Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 20:19:14 +0000 (UTC)
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [ENTS] Suunto vs. iPhone
>
> Carolyn,
>
> The Nikon Forestry 550 does it all. It is also fairly pricey. You select the
> height mode, shoot the crown, shoot the base, and read the calculated height
> from the LED. No math. No fuss. No bother.
>
> Bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carolyn Summers" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2010 2:35:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [ENTS] Suunto vs. iPhone
>
> Are there any tree-height measuring devices that do the math for you? I
> never took trig.
> --
> Carolyn Summers
> 63 Ferndale Drive
> Hastings-on-Hudson, NY 10706
> 914-478-5712
>
>
>
>> > From: Beth <[email protected]>
>> > Reply-To: <[email protected]>
>> > Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:57:09 -0800 (PST)
>> > To: ENTSTrees <[email protected]>
>> > Subject: [ENTS] Suunto vs. iPhone
>> >
>> > A Small Comparison between Suunto and iPhone Clinometers
>> >
>> > Since some of us now have iPhones and have downloaded the
>> > Clinometer application I thought that someone needs to compare the
>> > iPhone to the Suunto clinometer. Today I took 14 measurements each
>> > while sitting on my couch to a ceiling heating/AC vent. I then
>> > measured my eye height, the ceiling height, and the distance from my
>> > eyes to the tape measure hanging from the vent as a plumb bob. These
>> > measurements were: ceiling height = 96², height of the eyes = 38², and
>> > distance to the vent plum bob = 219². I used the measurements to
>> > calculate the angle I was trying to measure with the Suunto and
>> > iPhone. Before taking my measurements I calibrated my iPhone
>> > clinometer according to the instructions. I also had the following
>> > settings: Fast approximation-on, Beep on lock-on, wait for lock
>> > accuracy of + 0.1o- all the way to the left (+ 0.1o), disable auto-
>> > lock-off, and 3D glass effect-on.
>> >
>> > The first thing that I do in order to calculate the angle A was to
>> > calculate the distance from my eye to the ceiling; 96²-38²= 58².
>> >
>> > Since Tan A = a/b, we can rearrange the equation to find A by dividing
>> > both sides by Tan. Since 1/Tan =Arc Tan the equation is A = (a/b) Arc
>> > Tan. Filling in this equation with the data we get A = (58/219) Arc
>> > Tan or A = 14.8336707057. Taking signifiginte numbers in mind I am
>> > going to say the angle is 14.8o. (Note: I calculated this after
>> > gathering the data as not to influence the clinometer data)
>> >
>> > Now for the clinometer data:
>> > Suunto iPhone Suunto iPhone
>> > 15.5 15.2 14.5 15.4
>> > 15.0 14.9 15.0 15.2
>> > 15.0 15.1 14.5 15.2
>> > 15.0 14.1 14.5 15.1
>> > 15.0 15.0 14.5 15.7
>> > 15.0 15.2 15.0 15.5
>> > 14.5 15.1 14.5 15.2
>> > The means were 14.8 and 15.1 for the Suunto and iPhone respectively
>> > with standard deviation of 0.31 and 0.35.
>> >
>> > The one thing I noticed in my raw data is with the Suunto my highest
>> > and lowest angles were 15.5 and 14.5 whereas with the iPhone they were
>> > 15.7 and 14.1. I can think of at least two reasons why. 1) I have
>> > more experience with the Suunto than I have with the iPhone and 2) the
>> > Suunto has a line to help repeatly ³hit² the same spot whereas the
>> > iPhone you are just looking down one side of the phone.
>> >
>> > I also noticed after calculating the angle (14.8) the Suunto average
>> > was closer than the iPhone¹s (14.8 vs. 15.1). Now is 0.3o difference
>> > significant? Bob has more experience with the Suunto than I do and he
>> > has stated in the past that can read it to the nearest 1Ž4 o. I myself
>> > can only read it to the nearest 1Ž2o. Given this I believe that a
>> > difference of 0.3o is.
>> >
>> > How can the iPhone be improved? If one would add a sighting device on
>> > to the iPhone this could help ³hit² the same spot repeatly. Obviously
>> > this can not be same one that is used in the Suunto¹s, looking through
>> > it with an optical illusion. Maybe a tiny gun sighting built into the
>> > volume and/or ringer buttons on the left side. I think someone
>> > thought of this earlier. With the sight and practice I believe one
>> > could the angle down to the nearest tenth of a degree. With the
>> > Suunto one can only really estimate anything less than 1 degree.
>> > Beth
>> >
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