Jeffrey, 

I really enjoyed your response to John's question. My hat is off to gentle 
souls who are into creating tranquility and beauty and sharing it with our 
fellow creatures. 


Bob 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tupelo" <[email protected]> 
To: "ENTSTrees" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2010 12:10:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [ENTS] Re: Birds and Trees 

Relating to my business--I am not a cookie cutter designer--I take 
into account what the client sees for their Landscapes. Whether it be 
for deer resistance, native plantings, low maintenance, bloom, scent, 
screening--all of the above--Oh and the birds--and wildlife 
considerations--yes these are taken into account. It is my pleasure to 
design for clients that wish to bring in the senses--the sights, 
sounds, scents---This is my mission--when I see posts like this(and 
this is why I joined the group)--well I need to respond. Being the 
professional I did some public speaking to gardening groups, and 
master gardeners, not just about design principles, but also about 
soil modification, soil compaction, organics, correct siting, the 
proper plants for the specific need--all of this rolls into the 
enhancement of one's life! 
It is wonderful to sit on the deck, and have hummingbirds three feet 
away buzzing, and chirping,and the colors of their feathers in full 
view, to have these beautiful deer ten feet away big brown eyes, 
eating my garden!--well that is why I planted it in the first place-- 
to share-- 
Peace 
Jeffrey 

On Jan 8, 4:45 pm, "John Knuerr" <[email protected]> wrote: 
> Jenny's comment about what's happening to our soil got me to thinking about 
> what Thomas Berry, noted geologian who passed away in June 2009, once said: 
> "The Universe is a communion of subjects, not a collection of objects." 
> Treating the soil, or trees, or living creatures as objects allows us to 
> continue to destroy beings and habitat. This, in turn, got me to thinking 
> about our ENTS group. When I read Jenny's postings it's clear that she sees 
> each bird as an individual being - a subject, not object. When Bob first 
> took me into old growth forests, over time and repeated visits the groves 
> gave way to individuals who over the 15 or so years have become old friends 
> to me. On occasion, when I measure a tree, I do so with reverence. It's an 
> encounter with another being that can bring a sense of wonder and joy. Not 
> unlike measuring how much my grandchild has grown. 
> 
> From the beginning, Bob has always hoped that ENTS would be a celebration of 
> the Standing One's through science, history, poetry, music and dance. In 
> these times of increasing devastation of the natural world by our species, I 
> would love to see us explore how we can broaden our circle to the younger 
> generation. 
> 
> I'd appreciate others thoughts on this. 
> 
> John 

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