Jeff, Excellent response. Welcome to ENTS. Is this your site? http://urbansanctuaries.net/ There are several sites in SW Pennsylvania I would like to check out.
The first site that caught my attention is the Friendship Hill National Historic Ste. "The National Park Service owns and manages the Friendship Hill National Historic Site. The land here has been in agriculture since the late 1700's and has had some areas preserved, such as Sophie's Woods, named for Albert Gallatin's first wife Sophia, who is buried there. Sophie's Woods is a mature Red Oak-mixed hardwood forest (NC001) that has taken on many old growth characteristics." Other sources list it as old-growth that has never been touched. Another nearby site is on private land "The forest along the War Branch is a common forest type in the southwestern Pennsylvania but is an exceptionally mature example of this forest type. Trees here are very large as compared to most sizes seen in the rest of the area, in some cases exceeding 35 m in height. and 2 meters dbh (diameter at breast height). This Red oak-mixed hardwoods forest (NC007) is therefore recognized due to its old growth characteristics and uniqueness in the area." Perhaps if you are interested a field trip to one or both of these might be in order. Anthony Kelley also lives just outside Pittsburgh and might be able to join on a trip. Anyway, it is something for you to consider. (Are you good at identifying tree species in the winter?) Ed Frank http://nature-web-network.blogspot.com/ http://primalforests.ning.com/ http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?ref=profile&id=709156957 ----- Original Message ----- From: Tupelo To: ENTSTrees Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 12:10 PM Subject: [ENTS] Re: Birds and Trees Relating to my business--I am not a cookie cutter designer--I take into account what the client sees for their Landscapes. Whether it be for deer resistance, native plantings, low maintenance, bloom, scent, screening--all of the above--Oh and the birds--and wildlife considerations--yes these are taken into account. It is my pleasure to design for clients that wish to bring in the senses--the sights, sounds, scents---This is my mission--when I see posts like this(and this is why I joined the group)--well I need to respond. Being the professional I did some public speaking to gardening groups, and master gardeners, not just about design principles, but also about soil modification, soil compaction, organics, correct siting, the proper plants for the specific need--all of this rolls into the enhancement of one's life! It is wonderful to sit on the deck, and have hummingbirds three feet away buzzing, and chirping,and the colors of their feathers in full view, to have these beautiful deer ten feet away big brown eyes, eating my garden!--well that is why I planted it in the first place-- to share-- Peace Jeffrey On Jan 8, 4:45 pm, "John Knuerr" <[email protected]> wrote: > Jenny's comment about what's happening to our soil got me to thinking about > what Thomas Berry, noted geologian who passed away in June 2009, once said: > "The Universe is a communion of subjects, not a collection of objects." > Treating the soil, or trees, or living creatures as objects allows us to > continue to destroy beings and habitat. This, in turn, got me to thinking > about our ENTS group. When I read Jenny's postings it's clear that she sees > each bird as an individual being - a subject, not object. When Bob first > took me into old growth forests, over time and repeated visits the groves > gave way to individuals who over the 15 or so years have become old friends > to me. On occasion, when I measure a tree, I do so with reverence. It's an > encounter with another being that can bring a sense of wonder and joy. Not > unlike measuring how much my grandchild has grown. > > From the beginning, Bob has always hoped that ENTS would be a celebration of > the Standing One's through science, history, poetry, music and dance. In > these times of increasing devastation of the natural world by our species, I > would love to see us explore how we can broaden our circle to the younger > generation. > > I'd appreciate others thoughts on this. > > John
