gmorgenson- Egads! I know what it's like to shovel snow when it's -37...nothing to casuually morning walk in! Inside of your nose wants to stiffen and freeze up, on the spot...hurts to breathe without protection. Working in Butte Montana back in 1975, it had gotten that cold one Sunday night, and the next morning it was +35, a 72 degree change in less than 12 hours...I was out that Monday morning wearing a t-shirt with Pendleton shirt over it, levis...seemed plenty warm!
-Don > Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 11:23:03 -0800 > Subject: [ENTS] Re: Weather > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > -33 on Thursday on my morning walk, +27 this morning (Sunday), a > 60degree difference. For the past 6-7 years we have had thousands of > robins overwintering in Bismarck, they get here in early December and > live on juniper, crabapple and hackberry fruits the rest of the > winter. The recent cold snap has some frozen and belly up. I guess if > I could fly to the coast in a few days on my own, I would consider it > rather than eating frozen fruit. > > On Jan 9, 4:35 pm, Steve Galehouse <[email protected]> wrote: > > ENNTS- > > > > We haven't had any really cold weather yet here in N Ohio---perhaps 10F as > > the lowest temp so far---but when Lake Erie freezes over, as it is starting > > to now, the lakeshore area takes on a desolate Arctic aspect. A couple of > > pics. > > > > SteveOn Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Lee Frelich <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Will: > > > > > Unfortunately, no. I think temperatures in the -15 to -20 range are > > > necessary to kill the adelgid. It gets that cold every 2 or 3 winters in > > > the area where Bob Leverett lives, and that is right at the edge of the > > > zone where there is major adelgid damage. > > > > > Asheville, NC does have a record low of -17 F recorded during 1985, so it > > > is possible for temperatures to get that cold in the Smokies, but this > > > cold > > > spell is not that cold. A number of daily temperature records are being > > > set > > > in the south, but not records for the entire winter that would be > > > necessary > > > to kill the adelgid. > > > > > Lee > > > > > Will Fell wrote: > > > > >> Lee > > > > >> Do you think the cold in the southern Apps will slow the spread of the > > >> adelgid? I just checked the temps for Blairsville GA up in Union > > >> County where the HWA is just spreading into and it is currently 18 > > >> degrees and they have had lows in the lower teens down to 10 a couple > > >> days ago. If so I will bundle up and welcome the cold. At least it has > > >> been sunny the past week, unlike December. > > > > >> On Jan 8, 9:56 am, Lee Frelich <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>> Bob: > > > > >>> Cold weather does kill hemlock woolly adelgid. So, I take it that you > > >>> have decided its OK for the remaining old-growth hemlock to die so you > > >>> don't have to experience a few cold days. > > > > >>> Regarding ticks--you should see the new data we have from northern MN, > > >>> where we left several Hobos in the soil all winter. They measured > > >>> temperature every hour for the entire year. In the summer and fall, soil > > >>> temperature at a depth of 2 inches went up and down with air temperature > > >>> (although the response lagged air temperature by a day and was > > >>> damped--i.e. the rises and falls were of smaller magnitude than air > > >>> temperature. As soon as the snow arrived, soil temperature went flat at > > >>> about 30 degrees F. Air temperature during winter fluctuated from -45 to > > >>> +45, and the soil temperature stayed absolutely constant. Soil > > >>> temperatures reached their minimums in late fall and early spring when > > >>> there was no snow, but there were a few days of colder than average air > > >>> temperatures. > > > > >>> So, thats why ticks survive in the boreal forests of northern MN. To > > >>> kill ticks, an arctic cold spell without any snow on the ground is > > >>> needed, so that soil temperatures get very cold. Of course that would > > >>> kill the trees too, because roots are not adapted to survive the range > > >>> of temperatures as the tops of trees. > > > > >>> Lee > > > > >>> [email protected] wrote: > > > > >>>> Will, > > >>>> Do you mind if ENTS moves in with you. I'm sick of winter already. > > >>>> It > > >>>> is snowing lightly outside now and the maximum temperature here at the > > >>>> house will likely not rise to over 25 today. Saturday night the > > >>>> temperature here at the house will likely be around 0. > > >>>> One advantage to cold weather I always thought was thinning out > > >>>> the > > >>>> populations of pests like ticks. But, if they're able to live through > > >>>> extremely low temperatures, what the heck good is really cold weather? > > >>>> Bob > > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>> From: "Will Fell" <[email protected]> > > >>>> To: "ENTSTrees" <[email protected]> > > >>>> Sent: Friday, January 8, 2010 8:57:46 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > > >>>> Subject: [ENTS] Re: Weather > > >>>> Yes it is all relative. It was 70 degrees here New Years eve and > > >>>> fell > > >>>> like a rock Jan 1. Jan 12nd was the first below freezing morning this > > >>>> winter and all week we woke up to temps in the 20's and highs only > > >>>> about 50. This morning is the first day since Jan 1st we haven't > > >>>> awoken to temps below 32. It was only 35 this morning, but the "warm > > >>>> spell" won't last as it is to head to the low 20's tonight. Normally > > >>>> we will get a day or two of cold weather then it will blow out to sea. > > >>>> The cold has been the lead story in all the papers the past few days > > >>>> and everyone is fussing about it. I imagine folks in New England would > > >>>> be running around in shorts in this weather, but it has us in the deep > > >>>> south shivering. > > >>>> But I really wonder about the ticks. Here in South GA ticks are > > >>>> not > > >>>> a > > >>>> problem like up north. You will get an occaisional tick, but not like > > >>>> some places further north where you can't go in the woods without > > >>>> spraying down. And we do not have lyme disease dispite having a heavy > > >>>> deer population. So I really wonder if ticks and Lyme disease are > > >>>> responsive to cold weather. > > >>>> WF > > >>>> On Jan 8, 7:34 am, Beth <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>>>> Ents, > > >>>>> Wednesday night/Thursday day we here in St. Louis got between 3-6 > > >>>>> inches of snow. While this is not much the problem was the cold front > > >>>>> that came with it. High temps for yesterday were in the teens and > > >>>>> today and tomorrow the highs are to be in the single temps. Of course > > >>>>> the wind chills have been -10 and below. This is heading towards the > > >>>>> Northeast today. I hope that everyone there dresses warmly and in > > >>>>> layers if they have to get outside. > > >>>>> I hope that this bitter cold (yes I know Lee, this isn't cold > > >>>>> for you) > > >>>>> kills off some of the ticks around here. I am tired of pulling them > > >>>>> off of me along with getting Lyme. > > >>>>> Beth- Hide quoted text - > > > > >>>> - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > Lake Erie 1.jpg > > 796KViewDownload > > > > Lake Erie 2.jpg > > 567KViewDownload _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/
