I remember skiing one night at Vernon Valley, NJ and it was -45 with
a little wind chill. You'd breather on your ski gloves a few times
and they'd be coated in ice!
-Larry
From: DON BERTOLETTE
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 2:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ENTS] Re: Weather
gmorgenson-
Egads! I know what it's like to shovel snow when it's
-37...nothing to casuually morning walk in! Inside of your nose
wants to stiffen and freeze up, on the spot...hurts to breathe
without protection. Working in Butte Montana back in 1975, it had
gotten that cold one Sunday night, and the next morning it was +35,
a 72 degree change in less than 12 hours...I was out that Monday
morning wearing a t-shirt with Pendleton shirt over it,
levis...seemed plenty warm!
-Don
> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 11:23:03 -0800
> Subject: [ENTS] Re: Weather
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
>
> -33 on Thursday on my morning walk, +27 this morning (Sunday), a
> 60degree difference. For the past 6-7 years we have had thousands of
> robins overwintering in Bismarck, they get here in early December
and
> live on juniper, crabapple and hackberry fruits the rest of the
> winter. The recent cold snap has some frozen and belly up. I guess
if
> I could fly to the coast in a few days on my own, I would consider
it
> rather than eating frozen fruit.
>
> On Jan 9, 4:35 pm, Steve Galehouse <[email protected]> wrote:
> > ENNTS-
> >
> > We haven't had any really cold weather yet here in N Ohio---
perhaps 10F as
> > the lowest temp so far---but when Lake Erie freezes over, as it
is starting
> > to now, the lakeshore area takes on a desolate Arctic aspect. A
couple of
> > pics.
> >
> > SteveOn Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Lee Frelich
<[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Will:
> >
> > > Unfortunately, no. I think temperatures in the -15 to -20
range are
> > > necessary to kill the adelgid. It gets that cold every 2 or 3
winters in
> > > the area where Bob Leverett lives, and that is right at the
edge of the
> > > zone where there is major adelgid damage.
> >
> > > Asheville, NC does have a record low of -17 F recorded during
1985, so it
> > > is possible for temperatures to get that cold in the Smokies,
but this cold
> > > spell is not that cold. A number of daily temperature records
are being set
> > > in the south, but not records for the entire winter that would
be necessary
> > > to kill the adelgid.
> >
> > > Lee
> >
> > > Will Fell wrote:
> >
> > >> Lee
> >
> > >> Do you think the cold in the southern Apps will slow the
spread of the
> > >> adelgid? I just checked the temps for Blairsville GA up in
Union
> > >> County where the HWA is just spreading into and it is
currently 18
> > >> degrees and they have had lows in the lower teens down to 10
a couple
> > >> days ago. If so I will bundle up and welcome the cold. At
least it has
> > >> been sunny the past week, unlike December.
> >
> > >> On Jan 8, 9:56 am, Lee Frelich <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >>> Bob:
> >
> > >>> Cold weather does kill hemlock woolly adelgid. So, I take it
that you
> > >>> have decided its OK for the remaining old-growth hemlock to
die so you
> > >>> don't have to experience a few cold days.
> >
> > >>> Regarding ticks--you should see the new data we have from
northern MN,
> > >>> where we left several Hobos in the soil all winter. They
measured
> > >>> temperature every hour for the entire year. In the summer
and fall, soil
> > >>> temperature at a depth of 2 inches went up and down with air
temperature
> > >>> (although the response lagged air temperature by a day and was
> > >>> damped--i.e. the rises and falls were of smaller magnitude
than air
> > >>> temperature. As soon as the snow arrived, soil temperature
went flat at
> > >>> about 30 degrees F. Air temperature during winter fluctuated
from -45 to
> > >>> +45, and the soil temperature stayed absolutely constant. Soil
> > >>> temperatures reached their minimums in late fall and early
spring when
> > >>> there was no snow, but there were a few days of colder than
average air
> > >>> temperatures.
> >
> > >>> So, thats why ticks survive in the boreal forests of
northern MN. To
> > >>> kill ticks, an arctic cold spell without any snow on the
ground is
> > >>> needed, so that soil temperatures get very cold. Of course
that would
> > >>> kill the trees too, because roots are not adapted to survive
the range
> > >>> of temperatures as the tops of trees.
> >
> > >>> Lee
> >
> > >>> [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > >>>> Will,
> > >>>> Do you mind if ENTS moves in with you. I'm sick of
winter already.
> > >>>> It
> > >>>> is snowing lightly outside now and the maximum temperature
here at the
> > >>>> house will likely not rise to over 25 today. Saturday night
the
> > >>>> temperature here at the house will likely be around 0.
> > >>>> One advantage to cold weather I always thought was
thinning out the
> > >>>> populations of pests like ticks. But, if they're able to
live through
> > >>>> extremely low temperatures, what the heck good is really
cold weather?
> > >>>> Bob
> > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>> From: "Will Fell" <[email protected]>
> > >>>> To: "ENTSTrees" <[email protected]>
> > >>>> Sent: Friday, January 8, 2010 8:57:46 AM GMT -05:00 US/
Canada Eastern
> > >>>> Subject: [ENTS] Re: Weather
> > >>>> Yes it is all relative. It was 70 degrees here New
Years eve and
> > >>>> fell
> > >>>> like a rock Jan 1. Jan 12nd was the first below freezing
morning this
> > >>>> winter and all week we woke up to temps in the 20's and
highs only
> > >>>> about 50. This morning is the first day since Jan 1st we
haven't
> > >>>> awoken to temps below 32. It was only 35 this morning, but
the "warm
> > >>>> spell" won't last as it is to head to the low 20's tonight.
Normally
> > >>>> we will get a day or two of cold weather then it will blow
out to sea.
> > >>>> The cold has been the lead story in all the papers the past
few days
> > >>>> and everyone is fussing about it. I imagine folks in New
England would
> > >>>> be running around in shorts in this weather, but it has us
in the deep
> > >>>> south shivering.
> > >>>> But I really wonder about the ticks. Here in South GA
ticks are not
> > >>>> a
> > >>>> problem like up north. You will get an occaisional tick,
but not like
> > >>>> some places further north where you can't go in the woods
without
> > >>>> spraying down. And we do not have lyme disease dispite
having a heavy
> > >>>> deer population. So I really wonder if ticks and Lyme
disease are
> > >>>> responsive to cold weather.
> > >>>> WF
> > >>>> On Jan 8, 7:34 am, Beth <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >>>>> Ents,
> > >>>>> Wednesday night/Thursday day we here in St. Louis got
between 3-6
> > >>>>> inches of snow. While this is not much the problem was the
cold front
> > >>>>> that came with it. High temps for yesterday were in the
teens and
> > >>>>> today and tomorrow the highs are to be in the single
temps. Of course
> > >>>>> the wind chills have been -10 and below. This is heading
towards the
> > >>>>> Northeast today. I hope that everyone there dresses
warmly and in
> > >>>>> layers if they have to get outside.
> > >>>>> I hope that this bitter cold (yes I know Lee, this
isn't cold
> > >>>>> for you)
> > >>>>> kills off some of the ticks around here. I am tired of
pulling them
> > >>>>> off of me along with getting Lyme.
> > >>>>> Beth- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > >>>> - Show quoted text -
> >
> >
> >
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