Although I'm not entirely sure they are NS, need to go check, I think they are 
pretty commonly  used as yard trees here in northern NJ, sometimes in 
mini-'grove's of 5 or 6 too.
But I don't know my non-native spruce well and combining that from what a 
vaguely pictures in my mind as being near this house or that, well I certainly 
could be mistaken.


From: Steve Galehouse 
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 5:07 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [ENTS] Re: Honorary native tree--a possibility?: Norway spruce


Gaines, ENTS-

Here are a few pics of Norway spruce in my area. They have probably the 
greatest natural range of any spruce, so as has been mentioned there is a great 
variety of growth habits. The photos show what I consider typical for my area. 
The first shows mature trees in the landscape with what I consider a tattered 
look, usually becoming around 70' tall. The second shows a relatively young and 
vigorous tree(already running out of  room). The third shows a very common 
mistake---the Norway spruce is only 3' off the corner of the garage, and only 
about 15' from the Colorado spruce in the center.

I think the reason I'm not as fond of Norways as most in the group appear to be 
is due to their misuse in a landscape situation---there are so many other 
species and/or varieties of conifers that do a better job in relatively 
confined areas. When they are in a "forest" situation, combined with other 
conifers and deciduous trees, or treated as specimen trees in large park 
settings, they are perfectly acceptable.

Steve


On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Gaines McMartin <[email protected]> 
wrote:

  Lee:

    I am in that kind of program now, so unless there is something I
  haven't heard, and my project forester also hasn't heard, my answer is
  no.  But I can't plant NS, except in some special circumstances where
  with special permission, I can plant 10% non-native trees.

    But I am in MD--it is possible that different states have different
  rules. I am not sure how much the FSC writes the rules.

    When I get some time I will try to look it up.

    --Gaines
  ------------------------------------------------------------------------

  On 1/10/10, Lee Frelich <[email protected]> wrote:
  > Gaines:
  >
  > Doesn't FSC require or at least strongly encourage removal of exotic
  > tree species to get certification?  I don't know if thats involved in
  > this case.
  >
  > Although it is often a good thing to get rid of non-native species, that
  > is not always the case. After the adelgids (hemlock and balsam fir) work
  > their way through, it may be desirable to replace the ecological
  > function of those species with species such as northern Japanese hemlock
  > or Norway spruce. I have occasionally inserted comments about such
  > things in reviews for FSC, but I don't think it has much effect.
  >

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