> > > Try getting close or moving away ? :-)
> > >
> [...]
> >
> >     Oh, in the real world, moving is not usually an option. Ground is
not
> > usually level, and, yes there's trees and stuff to consider. What I do,
is I
> > move to where I want to shoot, then I frame the way I want. Sometimes I
> > still have to move a little to get a better framing, but with a prime,
it
> > just doesn't happen for me. Maybe in 2 percent of cases it'd work, but
I'd
> > rather not restrict myself to those few cases. You guys should get out
and
> > shoot more...
>
> Hmmm, strange -- for me, moving is almost always an option.  I guess
> we take pictures of different things or have different intents.  Which
> would not be surprising.  Seems that both absolutes are wrong.

    Depends where you live. Back home in Canada, I could usually move, since
it's so darned flat everywhere. However, in Japan, the only flat places are
tennis courts and school grounds... and I don't shoot there much :-)
    I don't always have people in my wide angle shots, but when I do, moving
is not an option, cause the people also move, therefore shot is lost. I
think this is the true beauty of zooms - with people in the shot.
Jim



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