>
>
> Chip Louie wrote:
> > I think he's buying a NEW body so age is not an
> > really an issue.  And while true that the
> > Elan 7e has some new and "improved" features
> > there seem to be different problems being
> > posted here from Elan 7e users in the field.
> > The only known problem with the EOS 5 is the
> > command dial which can be preemptively repaired
> > by Canon, everything else on the EOS 5
> > works like it should and the EOS 5 is one
> > of Canon's "light" pro bodies vs. the Elan 7e's
> > advanced amateur body status.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Chip,
>
> With all dues respect you can call a camera what you will,
> but does that make the EOS-3 a light pro body too?
> What consitutes that? Is it because pros don't use them
> heavily? (just a joke)
> Gee, I know a pro who religiously uses an Elan IIe, better
> tell him he is only an amateur or must he use an EOS-1V? ;-)
> Another uses an advanced amateur D30. Guess he better stop
> and use an EOS-1D since Canon says "this is their pro model."
> BTW, I for one absolutely BELIEVE age is a factor.
> Ever buy a 10 year old car? Bet you had to maintain it
> a lot more than a newer one. Same with cameras.
> Wait until the LCD panel dies on your old
> camera and can't be replaced. Then the command dial.
> Chip, its your opinion, but please understand this is only
> an opinion as well.
>
> Peter K
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>

Hi Peter,

I have seen these arguments here and in general discussions with friends and
relatives.  Let me explain my position and let us see if we are so far
apart.

Camera bodies with built-in flashes, plastic mounts, plastic mirrors, mirror
boxes for prisms, poor environmental sealing, low resistance to wear and
confusing difficult to use "features" that get in the way of the simplest,
leanest, most elegant way to the intended exposure are all IMO
characteristic of semi-pro bodies.  These particular features obstruct the
ability of the photographer to capture the image he/she wants.

Now here is the tricky part, some photographers need these special features
to produce their images and could not produce their images at all without
them.  Some even manage to use these features creatively to capture images.
For them features are good to have.  But even to the most feature dependant
photographer, most of these camera body features are simply too hard to
access for routine use.

Take for example the recent and on going discussion on what must be one of
the simplest to use EOS "features" called DEP mode.  DEP mode has been
around forever on EOS cameras and should be easy to understand by any
photographer who understands basic exposure and DOF.  On this list there are
of course all levels of photographic experience and competency.  Generally
though IMO the level of the most active group on the list have a higher than
average knowledge base.  But even within this group of elevated knowledge
the simple DEP mode operation and why it works is not understood on the most
basic level.  At least it would appear so if you've been reading this
thread.

How you use a body (for fun or profit), does not change what the body was
designed for or capable of doing, simply its use.  The professional
photographer you know who uses an Elan IIe cannot make the Elan IIe a
professional body, it's simply a tool that this professional uses.  The
photographer's use doesn't make the Elan IIe body more water resistant,
shock resistant, faster focusing, capable of advancing film at a higher rate
etc. he simply gets paid for the images he provides.

Many non-professional photographers approach photography in a serious
manner.  Often they will shoot the same subjects from the same locations as
the pro will shoot using the same equipment but simply don't sell their
images.  This is professional use IMO, the requirements are no less
stringent or demanding of the equipment.  A non-professional photographer
cannot make his EOS 1v or EOS 1n any less a professional camera design.

How a tool is used does not make a tool professional quality or not.  A tool
is or is not professional quality on its own, it does not need a
photographer to make it one way or another only to use it.


Regards,

Chip Louie




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