Julian Loke wrote:

> There is a worrying misunderstanding that DEP and A-DEP mode are calculated
> using Circle of Confusion and Depth-of-field data.

> The modes are apparently implemented using defocus information at the sensor
> plane, and use a "guestimate" that the best DOF occurs at 7/17 between the
> near and the far points.  Circle of Confusion does not enter directly in the
> picture, literally.

But two different things must be determined in DEP mode (and perhaps A-DEP
mode)

    1. The point of focus. Even an analytical solution does not involve CoC:

        U = 2 Uf Un / (Un + Uf)

        Where 
            U = Focused [object] distance
           Un = Near limit of DoF
           Uf = Far limit of DoF

        The EOS DEP algorithm hopefully effects a reasonable approximation
        of the above; if the 7/17 is correct, the EOS algorithm agrees with
        the analytical solution only when Un = 0.7 Uf.

    2.  The f-number.  This necessarily involves the CoC or something
        equivalent.  From the FAQ:

            "At the same time the focusing position is established, the EOS
            camera's CPU calculates the aperture value required to bring
            DEP 1 and DEP 2 within a 0.035mm circle of confusion.  This
            calculation is also extremely accurate because it is based on
            the total defocus amount at the film plane as previously
            described."

        I don't pretend to know exactly how it works ...

Incidentally, I suspect that on most manual-focus lenses, the algorithm
actually is implemented in image space:

    V = 2 Vf Vn / (Vn + Vf)

At small lens extensions, V ~ Vn ~ Vf, so that

    V ~ 2 VV^2 / (Vn + Vf)
or
    V ~ (Vn + Vf) / 2

For the f-number:

    N = (f/c)(Vn - Vf)/(Vn + Vf)

but V ~ Vn ~ Vf ~ f, so that

    N ~ (f/V)(Vn - Vf)/(2c) ~ (Vn - Vf)/(2c)

Where 
    c = Circle of confusion
    V = Focused [image] distance
   Vn = Image distance at which object at near limit of DoF is sharply focused
   Vf = Image distance at which object at far limit of DoF is sharply focused

Both final algorithms are easy to implement with a mechanical DoF scale;
they shouldn't be too surprising given that most lens DoF scales are
symmetrical about the focus mark.  Some of the usual caveats apply: the
lens is assumed to be unit focusing, and accuracy decreases as lens
extension increases.

So even with the time-tested lens DoF scales, some compromise often is
involved. Yet another reason to close down a step ...

Jeff Conrad



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