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From: "Hugo Lopes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 10:30 AM
Subject: EOS Re: New lens from Sigma


> > Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 16:50:42 -0700
> > From: Chip Louie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: RE: EOS Re: New lens from Sigma
>
> > > > As far as zooms go there is NOTHING available for the EF mount that
> > > performs
> > > > optically, mechanically or long term reliably like Canon's fast
> > > "L" zooms,
> > > > not from ANY manufacture of EF mount lenses.  How are they behind?
>
> Chip
>
> You missed the point. When I mentioned Canon was behind, I did not mean it
> in absolute optical or mechanical quality. Yes, L series lenses are great,
> but not everybody can afford them. You seem to have forgotten this point.
> There are people who want decent quality but can't afford a L lenses. To
> give you an example: a friend of mine has a 28-80/4.5-5.6 zoom and often
> complains about the slow aperture. On several occasions he has asked me
this
> question: "is there a zoom with a slightly wider aperture in the Canon
range
> without going L?", he is not prepared to spend more than 500-600 Euro.  My
> answer is: "no". The options I give him is sigma: 28-70/2.8-4;
28-105/2.8-4
> and now 28-135/2.8-4, just to mention sigma. What lenses does Canon have
to
> compete with sigma in this range? None. Many moons ago, Canon used to
> manufacture a great little trans-standard: 28-70/3.5-4.5. It had an
> excellent image quality at an affordable price. Unfortunately it was
> discontinued, never to be replaced. There is a segment of the zoom market
> where Canon just isn't represented. The reasons why they choose to do so
are
> irrelevant to me. The fact remains that you have to look elsewhere in the
> zoom market to find a mid-priced, relatively fast zoom. In this sense,
they
> are behind the competition because they have nothing to offer.
>
> > > > I think you all know where I
> > > > stand on this issue.
>
> You stand among the privileged ones that can afford L glass. By no means
do
> I say this in a pejorative manner since I also belong to this class of
Canon
> costumers (I have 3 L lenses). Nevertheless I always try not to forget
that
> there are other people who just can't afford L glass and have to settle
for
> compromise solutions. Mind you, they represent a larger share of the
market
> than L lenses owners.
>
> Regards,
>
> Hugo
>
By the way, that Sigma 28-105 f2.8-4 is the single worst lens I've ever
seen.  I bought one for my wife for Christmas a couple of years ago, and at
least the sample we had was terrible.  Unsharp at any focal length and f
stop.  Nasty little thing, the only reason she kept it for the 5 months that
she did is that she didn't want to hurt my feelings by selling it on e-bay.
Once I found out it was that bad, we put up on sale and bought a Canon
28-105 f3.5-4.5 for her.  Much better lens.
Skip Middleton
www.shadowcatcherimagery.com


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