Ok, let's try to send this again....

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Meyer
> 
> From what I've read, I think many people have a misconception of what 
> RAW really is.  I do not believe that a Canon RAW file is simply a 
> recording of the luminance info from each individual pixel.  I've read 
> (and I can't remember where at the moment, but if I can track it down 
> I'll repost) that Canon's raw format is essentially a compressed 
> (lossless) TIFF file with some additional proprietary information 
> (primarily to carry the EXIF data and parameter settings used during 
> the shot), and an embedded jpeg for display on the LCD. (Even the 20D, 
> which writes a separate JPG file in RAW+JPG mode, still has an 
> embedded jpg within the raw file.)  In fact, some of Canon's earlier 
> digital SLRs used the extension .TIF on their raw files.

I agree with you on all the items in your email. I am not sure what you
suggest in the above paragraph, though. Are you saying that Canon actually
stores all 3 color components for each pixel, i.e. they already interpolate
the missing color information, and then store this image in a regular
lossless compressed tiff format embedded in their raw files? I THINK this is
not what Canon is doing. The reason is that the file sizes seem too small
for this to be true. If you lossless compress a typical image the
compression rate is usually less then 2 even when using fairly sophisticated
algorithms. The raw files from Canon are considerably smaller then that even
taking into account all the other information you mentioned above, i.e.
SensorSize*12bits*3/Raw image size > 2.

My GUESS is that Canon might use a compressed TIFF format on the luminance
data for each channel, i.e. a gray-scale image and add all kinds of
information to it. Basic processing like dark current correction,
compensation for non-linearity, etc. is already done before the file is
compressed.

In any case, if you find that information about the Canon raw format I would
be very interested.

Regards,
Robert

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