Hi Peter,

> Yes! Thank you! Where both are standing at the same spot, and the
> 30D and 5D take the same image, the 1.6x factor make you
> (effectively) 60% closer. In order to achieve the same framing
> with the 5D, you need to crop 1/2 of your 12.7MP to get a 23 x
> 15mm frame. The result is that you are reduced to 6.4 MP using a
> 5D where as the 30D has 8.2 MP and the XTi 10.2 MP. So there are
> more pixels when using those cameras, that would cover the bird.
> And I will leave it alone at this point. Thank you for your help.
> Apologies to the group for not being as clear as it was here.

You were apparently also making the assumption that the two cameras are
using the same focal length...which is still left unstated, but the only way
to achieve your scenario.  Given that, then the two images are NOT "the same
exactly image[s]", which is one of the problems I was having with your
explanations.

This is simply an increase in magnification, which is what you are doing by
shooting the same focal length with both a 1x and 1.6x camera and standing
in the same spot.  Similar to shooting an 80 on a 35mm vs shooting an 80 on
medium format.  You obviously need to use a 1.6x longer focal length lense
on the 1x body, then the images would be "the exact same image[s]".

I believe that this (focal length to imaging media and magnification) is a
basic concept and am curious why it warrants saying (at least in a group
like this anyway).  That, combined with the use of "the exact same image"
made unclear to me what you were talking about, since again, the two images
would not be "the exact same image[s]".

But, none the less, we've filled in all the blanks through interpolation ;-)
and your point is now clear.  A simple concept clearly overcomplicated.
Thank you for the clarification.  Case closed.

Regards,

Austin

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